Horse Racing Fantasy Community

May 4, 2009 |
1ST RACE
5.0F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Horse Owner Weight
5 Locked up Jlow0813 122
7 Firstbreed njustinmon 119
10 Bold vixen papajack 119

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.73 , :44.52 , :56.90
Winner: :21.73 , :44.52 , :56.90
Track Variant:0.51

1ST RACE
5.5F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Horse Owner Weight
3 Warbird b4retina 122
9 Map of egypt dirkstar 122
10 On the run rlparlett 122

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.48 , :44.52 , 1:03.80
Winner: :21.48 , :44.52 ,1:03.80
Track Variant:-0.56

May 5, 2009 |
2ND RACE
5.0F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Horse Owner Weight
2 Frisky business rastafas 119
1 Private practice modgraphix 119
3 Firstbreed njustinmon 119
Track Condition:Heavy
Pace: :21.92 , :45.13 , :58
Winner: :21.92 , :45.13 , :58
Track Variant:10.38

2ND RACE
5.0F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Horse Owner Weight
2 On the run rlparlett 122
1 Map of egypt dirkstar 122
9 Sundaygold skittles 122

Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :21.66 , :44.34 , :56.61
Winner: :21.66 , :44.34 , :56.61
Track Variant:5.78

May 6, 2009 |
3RD RACE
5.0F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G2 | PURSE: $400,000
# Horse Owner Weight
11 Saferwaters Libertad 119
5 Gold ghost Aqacommish 119
10 Overdrive njustinmon 122

Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :21.62 , :44.22 , :56.37
Winner: :22.44 , :44.65 , :56.37
Track Variant:7.83

3RD RACE
6.0F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Horse Owner Weight
2 Midnight music Jlow0813 122
5 Handsome Man Pool 122
1 Glimmer Pool 119

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.94 , :44.35 , 1:08.26
Winner: :22.14 , :44.35 ,1:08.26
Track Variant:-1.36

May 7, 2009

4th Race - 6.5F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #2 Firstbreed
Owner – njustinmon
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Good
Pace: :21.61 , :44.34 , 1:09 , 1:15.65
Winner: :21.61 , :44.34 ,1:09 ,1:15.65
Track Variant:3.1

4th Race - 7.0F - G2 - $400,000
Winner - #4 Icicle
Owner – Pool
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.78 , :44.51 , 1:08.60 , 1:22.29
Winner: :22.53 , :45.24 ,1:08.89 ,1:22.29
Track Variant:-0.44

1st Race - 5.0F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #4 Silent storm
Owner – grimsly
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.76 , :44.88 , :57.38
Winner: :22 , :44.88 , :57.38
Track Variant:1.49

May 8, 2009

5th Race - 7.0F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #8 Pee shivers
Owner – dirkstar
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :22.13 , :44.48 , 1:08.18 , 1:21.10
Winner: :22.54 , :44.48 ,1:08.18 ,1:21.10
Track Variant:7.66

5th Race - 5.0F - G1 - $500,000
Winner - #2 High Heart
Owner – Pool
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.63 , :44.39 , :56.77
Winner: :21.63 , :44.39 , :56.77
Track Variant:-0.17

2nd Race - 5.5F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #2 Touchthestars
Owner – artman1
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.77 , :44.62 , 1:02.87
Winner: :22.28 , :44.62 ,1:02.87
Track Variant:1.6

1st Race - 5.0F - G2 - $400,000
Winner - #6 Mdm carl lewis
Owner – danielcakes
Weight – 119
Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :21.55 , :43.50 , :55.43
Winner: :21.55 , :43.50 , :55.43
Track Variant:6.96

Thank you, the99ride. I'd thought I'd run my best horse(or the one I think is best) to see how she compares.

This is her using the exact same conditions as the other horses(well similar at least)

5.0F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Name Weight
2 Pagan Raven 119
6 Here Comes Thunder 119
1 Sure Bet 119

Pace: :21.90 :44.62 :56.49
Winner: :22.92 :44.99 :56.49

Track Variant: 1.49

5.5F - DIRT | 2 YEAR OLDS| G3 | PURSE: $300,000
# Name Weight
5 Here Comes Thunder
2 Jury Duty
3 Pagan Raven

Pace: :21.99 :44.32 1:02.18
Winner: :21.99 :44.32 1:02.18
(23.54 45.38 1:02.67)*

Track Variant: .11
*My horse's time shown in parentheses

Now.. if only she'd run like this in a tournament.... I'd like to see some results for longer tournaments to, if it's not too much trouble. Though she can sprint she's not exactly a sprinter....

ModGraphix's horses are appearing in almost every race so far and have a total of 0 wins.
The same goes for the big stables of ronwar and dedewhale (although dedewhaele's horse finished second to a pool horse).
The stables that seem to be having the most sucess are dirkstar (Pee Shivers 2-1-0-1, Map Of Egypt 3-0-2-1)
and Jlow813 won the first Trainer race with Locked up and also won with Midnight Music. Only stable with two winners.
Another Surprising thing to me is the fact that no horse has won two races and only 4 of the 12 user winners are undefeated all with 1/1 record. Today, Locked Up and Saferwaters had chances to become the first 2/2 horses and Locked Up faded late and Saferwaters had one of the worst trips ever finishing fifth.

BUMP!

BUMP!

seems it can sit an pounce. When I made this post just wanted everyone to see what's going on an how well everyone is doing in general.

The more horses you have the easier it is to place them.

The more horses, the more confusing if you ask me. I have 21 and I don't think I can keep up with it. I've entered most of my horses in races, but really don't have a clue if I'm honest with you. I couldn't tell which horse is where. I'm not sure when the races are coming, even with the email alerts I think I'm miss something. Hopefully our stable pages will develop over time and help us keep up with what we have. Now its a blur

My plan was to only stick with 10 horses in my stable, but breeding horses can be addicting :)
If there was a better way to keep track I would probably breed more, but now its overwhelming.

~~~~~~~~
May they all come home safely!!!

I have my notes on my horses an ussually that puts me in the right races. Now to figure out the workout an placing to get the +2% everytime for each horse. lol I'm still planned for 40 breedings an keeping 5 maybe 8 if I think in time a nice 3 to 4 year old will go for big points in the sales ring.

May 9, 2009

6th Race - 8.0F - G2 - $400,000
Winner - #2 All rise
Owner – colmodea
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Good
Pace: :22.38 , :45 , 1:09.16 , 1:36.27
Winner: :22.52 , :45.15 ,1:09.16 ,1:36.27
Track Variant:3.51

3rd Race - 6.0F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #3 Quinto elemento
Owner – brusko
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Soft
Pace: :22.12 , :45.49 , 1:09.82
Winner: :22.46 , :45.54 ,1:09.82
Track Variant:11.39

2nd Race - 5.5F - G2 - $400,000
Winner - #9 Zero positivo
Owner – brusko
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :21.76 , :44 , 1:02.19
Winner: :21.81 , :44 ,1:02.19
Track Variant:3.1

1st Race - 5.5F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #6 Sweeper
Owner – p0039722
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Hard
Pace: :21.90 , :44.71 , 1:03.42
Winner: :21.98 , :44.71 ,1:03.42
Track Variant:-2.21

1st Race - 5.0F - G3 - $300,000
Winner - #3 Safeswap
Owner – jlow0813
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :21.41 , :44 , :56.74
Winner: :21.51 , :44 , :56.74
Track Variant:6.81

I am completely new to this game and am still slowly figuring everything out. I made my first horse yesterday.....to put it bluntly, he sucked. I made my second horse shortly after (Rufftoslew) and am REALLY happy w him in training. I have raced him on all different surfaces and lengths with variable numbers of other horses too and he usually wins every time. My first tournament with him is tuesday and I cant wait to see how he does in a real race. I have also been trying to practice as a jockey.....im getting better at it. Well, I'm having fun so its all worth it and I am learning more for when I actually do visit the real tracks here in SoCal.

Did you try vetting the other one? As for winning every time well... do keep in mind the quality of the horses your racing against. Beating The Black Stallion is a much greater achievement than beating any old run-of-the-mill community horse, for example.

I will be looking for Rufftoslew soon then. :>

Thanks all.
Yes I did try vetting the other one.....no good so I just moved on. Im not a VIP so I cant race the black stallion but I think Rufftoslew is ok.....I wont know until I race I guess. I probably just think he is good and will get my butt handed to me in the race lol. Still figuring out how this all works.
Says winner speed rating: 103 when I race....what does that mean?
Horse Times: 1 mile, track fast, 3 yrs and up
2 Rufftoslew :22.54 :45.41 1:09.46 1:34.85
4 Black Arabian :23.22 :46.04 1:09.69 1:35.87
9 Three Warriors :22.55 :45.64 1:10.09 1:36.75
7 Synthalating :23.01 :46.48 1:11 1:36.83
5 Powermadd :24.21 :47.47 1:11.45 1:37.05
Is there anything else I can do to make my horse better?

Horse Times: 6f, 3yrs and up, track good Speed rating: 106 this time
7 Rufftoslew :21.88 :44.87 1:09.83
4 Daisy Cutter :22.02 :45.13 1:09.86
3 Ginger Bread :22.53 :45.87 1:11.29
5 Girlfromthenorth :23.79 :47.18 1:12.21

Rufftoslew :22.04 :45.14 :57.23 on 5f, 3yrs and up, track good
Just when I thought I was getting it, now my horse has slowed down and is not winning as often?

This one was a bit better - 5f, track good - speed rating 113
3 Rufftoslew :22.07 :44.46 :56.49
4 Lionheart :22.18 :44.50 :56.86
1 Rich Chatter :22.56 :44.95 :57.52
2 Daytona Heat :22.58 :46.16 :59.61

Hmm.. those times aren't bad. Not bad at all. The little "winner speed rating" is the SSR rating of the winner. SSR rating is simply comparing your horse's speed to what a good horse might be able to do on that track on that particular day. The higher the better, however scores on "less than perfect" tract may make the SSR number inaccurate. Any horse that can run in the 100's on "perfect" (i.e fast dirt/hard-firm turf) is tournament quality, though there may even be a place for those less that as well. When running in the mud, the times your horse gets are a more accurate portrayal of his speed than the SSR. If you want some thing to use as a comparison, then run the community horse "Here Comes Thunder" on the same track and take note of the times she gets at the various poles. She is well known to be one of the best mud community horses out there.

ok thank you. I will try that. My guy does OK on sloppy/muddy tracks but seems to prefer fast/good dirt.

Well, she is faster for sure.

5f - track slow
2 Here Comes Thunder :22.10 :44.93 :56.90
1 Rufftoslew :22.37 :45.39 :58.01

5f - track synth
1 Here Comes Thunder :21.76 :44.65 :57.12
2 Rufftoslew :21.83 :45.13 :58.04

8f - track good
1 Here Comes Thunder :22.26 :45.07 1:09.66 1:36.08
2 Rufftoslew :22.28 :45.09 1:09.53 1:36.50

5f track turf
2 Here Comes Thunder :21.64 :44.54 :56.73
1 Rufftoslew :21.90 :44.92 :57.30

1 1/8m turf/hard (my horse is NOT a turf horse)
4 Rufftoslew :22.69 :45.77 1:09.56 1:34.47 1:48.25
6 Here Comes Thunder :23.31 :46.74 1:10.72 1:35.26 1:48.38
2 Cleannancy :23.84 :47.26 1:10.87 1:35.19 1:48.44
5 Havin Fun :22.35 :45.57 1:09.70 1:35.07 1:49.17
3 High Falutin :22.43 :45.79 1:10.07 1:35.54 1:49.83

When you say he is "not" a turf horse, are you saying that because the computer tells you so or because of results? The computer makes those comments based on assumptions only. You are the trainer, and therefore you know best-not the computer. That's why you have to run races on each and every possible surface, no matter what the computer says.

Based on those results, I'd say your horse is better suited to longer distances and not sprints. Why? He seems to speed up during the very last half of the race. Furthermore, in the races against Here comes Thunder you seem to either have two On the Lead horses where on is better than the other or a Far Back that is getting burnt out by trying to keep up with the lead horse. Try a longer race(by the looks of it he could perhaps be best at distances of anywhere from a mile to 1 mile 1/4 or beyond.), selecting 1 or 2 powerful On the Lead horses(Here Comes Thunder, for example), 3 average horses to make a "pack"(if you put it on "sort by recommended" then the average ones would be somewhere in the middle) and your trainer horse. Then, jockey him yourself, and try to keep pace with the pack. Then during the last stretch or so speed up to catch the leader.

There's a couple of points that I agree with in this thread.

More horse gives you a better chance of winning for finding a good one --> Absolutely

But, I find myself agreeing with Ronwar that too many horses can be too much to handle.

Personally, I like to keep things small and manageable. That gives me a chance to know each horse better and I am more likely to place it correctly in the tournaments.

Thanks 99 for the race records and time.

Thanks for all the advice! Im trying out different things to improve.

May 10, 2009

Race - 7.0F - UG - $200,000
Winner – Pee shivers
Owner – dirkstar
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Good
Pace: :22.18 , :45.15 , 1:09.93 , 1:24
Winner: :22.64 , :45.73 ,1:10 ,1:24
Track Variant:3.4

Race - 8.0F - UG - $200,000
Winner – Whos next
Owner – 70carnut
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :22.17 , :44.91 , 1:09.73 , 1:36
Winner: :22.73 , :45.26 ,1:10.21 ,1:36
Track Variant:6.59

Race - 8.0F - UG - $200,000
Winner – Ruffiana
Owner – ruffiano
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Firm
Pace: :22.35 , :44.85 , 1:08.67 , 1:21.48
Winner: :22.48 , :44.85 ,1:08.67 ,1:21.48
Track Variant:1.11

Race - 5.5- G3 - $300,000
Winner – Zero positivo
Owner – brusko
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Hard
Pace: :22.25 , :45 , 1:03
Winner: :22.42 , :45 ,1:03
Track Variant:-0.67

Race - 6.0- G3- $300,000
Winner - Bonamy
Owner – krielc
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Hard
Pace: :22.11 , :45 , 1:10.85
Winner: :22.22 , :45.21 ,1:10.85
Track Variant:-2.45

Race - 8.5f – G3 - $300,000
Winner – Admirals gold
Owner – micmac
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Sloppy
Pace: :22.56 , :45.19 , 1:08.33 , 1:34.73 , 1:41.98
Winner: :22.56 , :45.19 ,1:08.45 ,1:34.79 ,1:41.98
Track Variant:7.41

Race - 7.0 –G2- $400,000
Winner – Thrush
Owner – jlow0813
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Heavy
Pace: :22 , :45 , 1:09.96 , 1:23.45
Winner: :22.29 , :45 ,1:09.96 ,1:23.45
Track Variant:10.84

Race - 7.5 –G3- $300,000
Winner – Affected
Owner – jlow0813
Weight – 119

Track Condition:Fast
Pace: :22.50 , :45.10 , 1:09.49 , 1:29.14
Winner: :22.82 , :45.10 ,1:09.49 ,1:29.14
Track Variant:-1.45

Race - 8.0F - UG - $200,000
Winner – Ruffiana
Owner – ruffiano
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Firm
Pace: :22.35 , :44.85 , 1:08.67 , 1:21.48
Winner: :22.48 , :44.85 ,1:08.67 ,1:21.48
Track Variant:1.11

Should read - Should read - Should read

Race - 7.0F - UG - $200,000
Winner – Ruffiana
Owner – ruffiano
Weight – 122

Track Condition:Firm
Pace: :22.35 , :44.85 , 1:08.67 , 1:21.48
Winner: :22.48 , :44.85 ,1:08.67 ,1:21.48
Track Variant:1.11

How many people have actually ran there horse's 143 times to find out exactly where they should be placed?

But, anyways, I usually wait till only 100 races before making any serious assumptions for two reasons. One-I don't really see the need to run a race at 9F if my horse can barely handle 8F(or whatever). Two-I haven't really looked into how any of my horses would perform at different ages, since I really am only interested in what races they can win as a 2 yr old. However.. once they hit three I will probably reassess what I have before entering any other tournaments.

I agree with everything you stated there, especially the age thing. The only reason I would test age is if I'm not happy with the 2-year old results.

But 143 would give each of our horses some run at every surface an distance too make a tournament or retirement postion.
The words of wisdom "States can't assume anything in horse racing until it's proven."

That's very interesting 99. There is no way I could do 143 races for 20 horses. I usually just try to determine overall ability. So I'll try a few distances, a few surfaces. Then, If I like what I see, I will try to race them through their 2, 3, 4 year old season.

On anther note, one of the top three horses in my stable takes on a couple of yours tomorrow in the Racing at the Spa tourney. If Midnight affection does not break the gate and cruise to an easy victory I might not sleep tomorrow :) I have a good post, so there shouldn't be any excuses(except he's just not good enough) How do you feel about the tandem you have signed up for that race (Edgar Prado Handicap)?

~~~~~~~~
May they all come home safely!!!

There my 2nd an 3rd rabbits. They won't win.
Midnight affection should see dr puddles for a jump or 2 at the half an win by 10 maybe a tad longer. Checker flag may run into your rear in the first furlong. If you don't win - I might not sleep at night. Actually your horse is my test. So good luck to us both.

MY highest speed figure with my Secretariat X Ruffian filly is 117...and her quality seems to be declining as i race her more...I've tried different surfaces...and her fractions are normally pretty impressive, but she just doesnt perform as well as she used to. Anyone know about retiring trainer horses? Maybe she'd be a good broodmare.

~*horsekrazee*~

Best advice I could give you is don't retire her yet? Has she gone for any tournament races?

As for breeding from Trainer Horses, as I understand it, only the special few will be chosen by the staff. You could retire your horse and not be able to do anything with her.

Get her involved in more racing and see what happens.

I move this info to my blog so it's easier to mange. Thank you