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Don't quote me, because I don't know the specifics, but I've read in the past that Geoff Mullins doesn't follow the rules of racing and had been accused of using drugs on his horses and cheating. I'll try doing some research to see if I can come up with these recent charges against him and the other trainer.

Thanks, but i think the other guy is an owner not a trainer. I tried looking it up but couldnt find anything about it.

Geoff Mullins was seen by security personal on the day of the Woodward Stakes giving a stakes horse an oral drug. A cough supressant, called, air power. This was while in the holding barn before a race and is not allowed, according to New York horse racing rules. The horse was scratched because of this. If nobody said anything, Geoff said he was also going to give this medication to I Want Revenge, winner of the Woodward Stakes, later on the card.
I forget the exact name of the horse that was scratched. It was Gato something or other.

Mullins injected Gato Go Win in the mouth with an over the counter cough medicine on race day. Gato Go Win was a contender in the Bay Shore (Saturday's Race 7 @ Aqueduct won by Capt. Candyman Can). It's illegal to give a horse medication on race day (with the exception of Salix) in NY. Gato Go Win was scratched by the stewards. Mullins claimed he was unaware of the rule.

Such a charge makes you stop and think if he has done this before or not.... I have used this stuff before on some of my horses, but not during a race, wouldnt it come up in the test after the race if you win?

Let me correct myself. In a previopus reply I made reference to " I Want Revenge " winning the grade 1 " Woodward Stakes" 2009. I meant to say, grade 1 Wood Memorial Stakes 2009. Not the Woodward Stakes.
Anyway, I find it difficult to believe that Mr. Mullins doesn't now the precise rules for New York racing. It's his obligation and responsibility to know all of the rules.
I don't know the rules myself (shouldn't have to ), but I don't think that any medication should be used in the holding stall, unless approved by the state rules.
Heck, if you feel that your horse (s) need this cough suppressant, why not tell the proper authorities so that a track vet could check the horse out to see if he/she is fit to race. Seems like too many trainers feel that they could do as they please and then offer lame excuses. This isn't good for the game, in my opinion. I say, punish the guilty. I woudn't be surprsied, if he gets banned from raicng in New York state, if found guilty. For now, I'd have to go along with, innocent until proven guilty. But, it doesn't look good.

jeff mullins has been suspened several times before for different things and he got caught giving it to the horse in clear view and he wasn't trying to hide the needle that he was trying to use in admistering it orally to the horse.

You'd think discrepancy would be necessary if you wanted to get away with it...kind of makes me think he really might not know all the rules, or maybe he doesn't care anymore.

Jeff Mullin's now the rules. He has an attitude problem and doesn't care. He's been in trouble many times in California for same violations. A few years ago, in our state of California, they made him put litterally all of his horses in a detention barn, that were entered, on race day so he could be under close observation.
His win percentage (30%) before the detention barns, dropped to below 15% when they were watching him. He used to give, what they call a milkshake cocktail to his horses on race day that had the effect of lowering the horses fatigue rate, thus letting them continue running when they should be tired. I'm sure everywhere Jeff goes, he's under the microscope. JMHO

Good for you, New York. If this man is found guilty, throw the book on him. Let all tracks (states) stick together and get rid of the cheaters. This guy has had too may chances. I'm surprised he's still around, especially with the major slump in horse racing around America.They don't need this.

i don't understand why the stewards allowed i want revenge to race in the wood memorial stakes. but the security guard had inspected the stuff that he was carrying in the dention barn . so i'm quite sure that the guard had seen the needle. so why didn't he take everything from mullins to begin with instead he let him walk over to the colt with a bucket that had a nasal spouge and ointment, etc in it.

I wouldn't think he could get away with giving them milkshakes anymore, most every track in North America tests for them now. It kind of makes me wonder if theirs something new out there that isn't being tested for yet.

it wasn't a needle. it was a syringe, like the ones you fill with water to wash a horse's mouth out. anyway, nobody would use a needle to administer an oral medication.
apparently in New York it's illegal even to take a syringe into the test barn.
Air Power claims that it won't show up in post-race drug tests, so maybe this is why it never showed up? I'm not sure if it's legal in other places but I think it is?
I think the excuse that he "didn't know" is baloney! It's the trainer's responsibility to check up on the rules. You can't just do whatever you feel like and say, "oh well I didn't know that, no one told me."

Let us run with perseverance the race that is marked out for us.
-Heb 12:1

now it makes me wonder if he had gave i want revenge something before he was walked over to the detention barn on the gotham stakes day. but i had only said a needle because i wasn't sure how to spell syringe. but a needle is attached to a syringe which is another reason that i had used that word.

Ashley- lizzardjockey was talking about a different kind of syringe. Not one like you give shots with, but one that trainers and people use to rinse there mouths out, usually right before they leave the barn before heading to the paddock(at least that's how i use it).