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Empoy47 wins the crossover 1 betting tournament that ended today with a 1216 ROI. I can seldom make it to 300. I am used to seeing him in the 400 to 500 range and more but 1216 is just hard for me to conceive. Wow.

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Congrats !! To Empoy47 !!

Congrats to empoy47 on the great numbers to recieve !! .. very impressive !! .. hard to beat that !! .. LOL !!

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LOL

Not if your cheating. I want him to see if he can make a average sr120 run a sr480, well it should be easy for him since he can do it jockey and betting tourneys. He averages 4-6 times what everybody else can do. Cmon empoy47 show us what you can do in the training game, LMAO.

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Oh nevermind

He blows in training horses, LOL

$607,500 Pts 6,752 Starts 77 wins 2 place 5 show 4 fourth 6

For Jockey

Life Time 4147-1091-908-676-489 1422827 343.098

But in tournments something weird happens it goes up to Tourn PPS : 685.4, LOL

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He certainly seems to thrive

He certainly seems to thrive in tournaments.

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Happens

Every time the game updates....Funny that!

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and it will......

and it will happen over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.....but who cares anymore right ? I dont, I think its pretty hilarious now. this is why you only see 3 to 4 players in any givin Jockey/Bettor Tournament on average.....but you know what, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah......lol.... its too bad we cant reinstall our lifes at times to get more out life, just need a extra boost at times hahaha

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How true is that

I could do with a reinstall right now.... higher income...higher brownie points..more pressies....better !!! woops nearly forgot...oh yeah memory

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Maldives Silver Cup Bettor Tournament

1598 for empoy47. Really?

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lol at emerson.

lol at emerson.

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shocked...

i don't believe it either...i just picked my long shot choices, sat back and watched...that's it!...well...why am i explaining...who will believe me anyway... jbcri, no need to drag me into training...i'm not good at that...

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LMFAO

yeh , the reinstaling doesnt quite work the same with the trainer game yet.....never know tho, there might be some other backdoor you can find on the trainer game to gain a extra boost :)

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not true ruffiano!!!!

i had empoy over my house yesterday, and we watched racing from the meadowlands. he picked 10 out of 10 winners. this guy is good! HEY.......WAIT A MIN WTF. THAT WAS THE RECAP SHOW! j/k empoy.

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The way to deal with cheating in the jockey/bettor events

It is hard to believe that there are dopes still out there, oblivious to what goes on in these corrupt jockey and bettor tournaments. What is worse is they actually contribute to it, and then come in and post about it, as if a great accomplishment has just occured. LOL. Ruffiano, it isnt up to HRF to deal with this, it is up to the community. All you have to do is not enter any empoy-created tournaments. Since his PPS is high, he can't enter normal, non system gaming tournaments. That would be the end of empoy. He would have no place to go any longer. But there are some blind soldiers who continue to sleepwalk into his cheating tournaments. It is maddening to watch, but this is what happens.

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Flying One....

your right I do stay out of the reinstalling tourneys....but ur wrong , this is HRF 's game, and they are the only ones that can fix the issue....not everyone who enters empoys gaming tourneys know of his ways, and it should have been nipped in the a year ago.....the problem with the reinstalling is that you get great horses at great odds fresh from the reinstall....but after about 20 - 30 games it all pans out, but not until the guy manages to get 20-1 out of a horse that normally goes off at 6:5....this is a loophole that needs to be fixed so that players can go back to playing in tournaments without that glitch looming over them everytime they enter.....I reinstalled just to test it, and I was averaging 450-500 pps, then after about 30 runs into the past performances, I averaged about 250 pps......so its there, needs to be dealed with....we as players shoudnt have to worry about entering a tourney or not because someone might be using this cheat...if HRF knows about this and Im sure they do by now, then they should inform every player on here and even make a video of how to get more pps by reinstalling....not everyone has a corrupt mind while playing games, so this info should be known to all.....whatI cant believe is how a guy like that can seriously go about doing this , winning tournaments knowing its all bogus, and then go to bed at night with a smile on his face .........

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HRF know about it, they just

HRF know about it, they just don't care about it. They are more concerned with how many new members they can get to play the training game riding the wave of the new Secretariat movie.

Jockey tournaments are for fractions of pennies (for HRF) and bragging rights

trainer signups are for dollars-- breeding is for dollars-- tournament entries are for dollars.

Sign up a new trainer and give him a horse that can run 130s in actual tournament play-- priceless.

If you thought the trainer game was bad before, wait until you see what happens after the Secretariat premiere.

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ho-hum....

several modifications have been made to this game and guess what?...same sore losers...prove to this community that i'm a cheater and i'll be gone...if not, back off...these accusations were thrown not only to me but also to others who trashed the same sore losers before...i enjoy playing this game whether you enter or not...

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ho hum

several modifications have been made to this game and guess what?...same sicko cheaters....prove to this community that you play fairly and Flyingdaaka will be gone...if not, zip it...these accusations were thrown at you and were right on target...you may enjoy playing this game whether anyone enters or not...
but the way to gid rid of you and your cheating kind is to boycott all your cheating tournaments that you create. If nobody enters your tournaments, you will have no place to play. And that will be the end of you. After that, the next cheater will be addressed.....and so on....and so on....until the game is rid of you and your kind.

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hahaha...

nice try flyingidiot...only cowards like you don't take the challenge...there's nothing to prove by me...you're the one to prove what you're saying...otherwise you're a big liar...and this game doesn't need liars like you...

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Gosh

I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but I've been hearing this cheating in the jockey tournaments even before Flyingdaaka started posting. Way back in June of '09. I never got it. I still don't understand how you can cheat in the jockey tournys. Is it that you keep resetting the pp's? i just had all my pp's reset after the last update and it sure as heck ain't helping me win any jockey tourneys.
That seems like such a huge waste of time for such a small payoff. And even if that is the case, is that really cheating? I'm not an intense jockey tourny player so it really doesn't matter much to me. All I care about are the trainer tourneys. I just get the feeling that there is something more here than meets the eye.
This must be confusion Monday. Vas' "Apology" post has me confused to.

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you're right joey...

some disgruntled losers raised that issue before when they can't beat the good jockeys at that time...i think hrf made an adjustment to address the issue...tweakings were made by the technical experts... but since the good jockeys still stand out, cheating was raised again...to me this is a slap in the face of the hrf technical experts if cheating was really made...imagine a nobody playing around with the system, which was created by technical experts through years of research?...and now even the betting tourneys can be rigged according to the "trying to be expert" players here...how can that be?...when all you have to do in betting tourney is pick and watch?

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Joey, read post #14 of mine again.....

that will explain how to do it.....Like I have stated in other post, I knew of this cheat long b4 but I didnt have the same corrupt mind this guy has to be able to do it in tournaments....Ok, then so everyone was like "how can you cheat in jockey tournaments?" so as I heard enough of these statements by those who didnt get it, I proceeded to join 10 tournaments, winning all of them easily with a 450 pps avg.....when you do a reinstall of the game, it resets all of the data to a fresh level....so in other words, the horse that should be going off at say 6:5 all of a sudden go off at 5-1 or even up to 20-1 in alot of cases.....how is that not easy to figure out?? all you have to do is either remember who the dominate horses are, or write them all down on a pad, then ride them getting very good payoffs otherwise not obtainable.....if HRF ever fixed this problem and set the correct odds to these horses from the get go, this cheater would not be able to win all of these tournaments....I have already proved there is a problem with this cheat by scoring 450 pps with reinstall, then only scoring 250 pps without a reinstall....so if I can do it , anyone can.....do you guys realy think a guy can score 1200 pps in a 10 race tournament? if you do, ur nuts

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AH YES

I read that the other evening but forgot about it. HHHMMMM I wonder why. lol
Yep makes sense, but my gut tells me that HRF is going to try and fix this as soon as possible. I'm sure they don't want even a hint of misplay at this transitional time in the game.

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this is why ....

this is why that tournaments should be random rides....what I mean by that is when you join a tournament and the tournament starts, it opens up a special tournament tab in the game like there used to be but never was utilized....then when you enter it and start riding , the ride that you have is random, and is that way for everyone...this would stop this nonsense and really make it even more of a challenge....because empoy, if you are such a great jockey you could win on any horse right? lol anyways, I hope atleast they make someday this happen, atleast make half the tourneys random ride tournaments

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who is the nut?

have you read the title of the thread?...it's empoy winning the crossover bettor tourney by posting 1200+ ROI...not PPS...do you know the difference between PPS and ROI?...read first and analyze before you jump into conclusion...ok?...can't you see other guys creating bettor tourneys higher than what i posted?...if you think i'm cheating in jockey tourneys, i would have been unbeatable...but is that the case?...why don't you accuse me when i performed badly?...if you think you're good in jockey tourneys, take my challenge...if you know the trick, then try it against me...that is...if you have the balls...

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Well

its not cheating but its not the correct way to do it. But do you reinstall the game to achieve higher scores?

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Hmmm

I dont really care whatever he does to win. Hey he cant train horses and he found his niche to stay active and have fun at HRF. So good for him, next!

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This is why.....

this is one of the reasons payouts are so low in jockey tournaments anymore, and why there are only 3 or 4 of the SAME people that ever play.....if there wasnt any rediculous cheating going on like Ive explained there is , then why arent more people playing in them? .... Ive already proved this cheat....it more than doubles your points per start, how hard is that to understand? I won 10 tournaments straight doing this , and I did it because everyone said how can this be? this dude is just like a old player named nep1293, anyone remember this guy? I do since Ive been on here since the begining.....he had a way to cheat also until HRF who at that time cared about the jockey tournaments, stopped it....but then the reinstall trick was figured out , and bam, this guy was on it......I really wish they would make random jockey rides in tournaments, this guys wins would go from every tournament won to nearly none.....jbcri09 , this attitude of our community of , "who cares if he is cheating" is why that part of the game went to the wayside....they should just name all those tournaments now, "The Empoy Reinstall Sessions" , its ashame they dont plug this hole, because I for one would love to be able to race again in them, but Im not about to go about it by cheating, and thats what you would have to do to even compete....since the reinstall cheat more than doubles your point output.....and the thing is, he joins almost all of the jockey tourneys, so you have no options....its sad because not long ago, the Jockey tournaments were the big thing around here...and so because of this guy and this cheating reinstall tactic, that part has disapeared.......too bad for us, good thing for empoy...so empoy, enjoy all of your bogus victorys, and go to sleep tonight with that big ole smile on your face....

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jbcri09 , this is why he doesnt play the trainer game , because this tactic doesnt work, and Im sure if he did figure out a way to glitch that part of the game, he would

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It not for me to care.

Its HRF problem and they refuse to fix the glitch. I dont enter jockey or betting tourney anyways. Well everybodys knows he does something. Just look at his jockey game stats vs his tourneys stats numbers. There almost doubled. If he was that good at picking winners he wouldn't be here and he would be at the track all day.

What do you want us to do? I will care for 1 week. Then after a week if the problem still exist then what can we do? Are you giving me permission to attack HRF non stop and call all those pricks out and demand they fix this issue? HRF is to busy playing with Mickey Mouse. You know HRF goes half way on everything. Like handicapped weights. Whats that? Thats a half ass way to a class system. Look what they thought was more important with this last game update. They choose to put big ass bill boards all over the place instead of fixing this cheat. That shows you were there priorities are at. They are ass backwards!

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You would think???

They would have fixed Mountaineer Park. The fricking signs are inside the field. Thats been going on since I joined.

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jbcri09

I agree totally with what your saying ...its just a shame because the jockey tournaments could be one of the highlights of this game again....o well

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lol @ jb

too busy playing mickey mouse. lol lol.

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ruffiano

I can accept that you are upset and completely understand your point of view regarding why you wont enter the jockey tournaments , however i enter the jockey tournaments now and again and have beat empoy47 and the bat boys on numerous occasions and i certainly do not cheat.So saying that you cannot beat these guys unless you cheat yourself is offensive to me.If they are cheating it just makes it that much sweeter when i beat them , which is not too often though.It does bother me if people are cheating in the jockey tournaments , but i will not let that stop me from enjoying myself and taking part.Also if this is indeed happening then Hrf should address this immediatly.

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hey daaka...

and alwayslast...errr....ruffiano...seems like your "do not enter" campaign is not working in my bettor tourneys...it looks like they like it more...take note that the participants are in the top of the leaderboard...maybe they're waiting for my reinstalling session to start...lol...

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yup.....

laugh it all up bud......its just weird to me that a guy would say its ok if someone cheats and it doesnt bother him....very odd....but good news, Ive already messeged Mike about this, and he quickly wrote me back with a interest to deal with this, so hopefully ur days are numbered...obviously you can still beat a cheater even with his reinstall advantage,things happen, but to beat someone who has a advantage every race , it makes it tough....this will either be dealt with, or it wont, but I will say this to empoy boy, try the training part of the game, there are no exploits there yet, and since your such a keen eye of horses , I bet you could win almost every trainer tournament also...and oh yeh , Im sure those you are in tournaments with today are so convenced you are that much better than them, sometimes good people have no clue to think anything bad is going on.....have fun !!

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really?

just tell me where do i see here in the guidelines that reinstalling is cheating?...even hrf recommends reinstalling once we get problems in our game...even then, reinstalling doesn't guarantee you to be a sure winner...you knew that because you already tried that against the top jockeys of your time when you used your another account as alwayslast...it takes skill to be good, not reinstalling...anyway that is what i expect from a cry baby like you to do...whisper to puddles' ear that you are good and i'm bad...i just hope puddles will weigh things first before acting...have fun also alwayslast...errr...ruffyboy...

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