http://www.horseracegame.com/community/races/16808
River Run pokerpop 1 114 20:1
The Holy Ghost jbcri09 2 114 15:1
King Ron ronron900 3 114 8:1
Twin Engine Gene racodo 4 115 5:2
All To Myself nyracinggrl39 5 114 10:1
Bubblebutt northernvolsfan 6 114 50:1
Corazon Salvaje jban711 7 114 40:1
Indomitable dustyla2 8 120 8:5
One example my horse carried 3lbs less than Racodo horse in the prelims but I didn't win any race. I got 3rd's twice and racodo had 1st and (3) 2nds and now I get only 1lb break, wtf happened to my 3lbs I started with and couldn't not do anything with? Plus I'm 15-1 and hes 5-2, but I am negative 2lbs now.
http://www.horseracegame.com/community/races/18005
On Cahill garylim 1 114 15:1
Dog Food headie 2 114 4:1
Immortal Organza raselfedowi 3 114 10:1
Dark Vengeance scaramouche 4 118 5:2
Rising Along Fog bettowin98 5 120 4:1
Superb Fool sleepers 6 114 4:1
Bullringer dontbetonme 7 114 8:1
Dusty Hoffman steven4444 8 114 10:1
Start The Clock jbcri09 9 114 20:1
No example needed because everybody 114lbs like the first race I pointed out, 4-1 and 20-1 the same weight.
Same handicapper, poor weight placements.
I have a horse in one of those finals, so I feel a bit uneasy about commenting on the handicapping. But I would urge all members to look at this handicapper's races and vote on whether or not you think he did a good job or a bad job. Use the links provided in the first post on this thread to get to this handicapper's page.
Dusty
p.s. I agree that it looks like he is trying to do too many races.
I also agree feedback is neccesary for this final as i disagree with the final handicapping done here. The following is my assessment with limited time i have tonight.
1-River Run (116lbs)
2-The Holy Ghost (117lbs)
3-King Ron (118lbs)
4-Twin Engine Gene (122lbs)
5-All To Myself (117lbs)
6-Bubblebutt (115lbs)
7-Corazon Salvaje (117lbs)
8-Indomitable (120lbs)
-ModGraphix Stables-
I agree with mod and Dusty the community needs to vote on these it is hard to get stuff done without votes
If handicappers final to use female/male weights carried in prelims then finals will NEVER be correct..
Females carry 3 or more less then males depending age of tournament..
my example here is 2yr old.. females 119..males 122 standard.
females have a 3 pound break on males so = and - from this must be used... NOT ahhhh that female won prelims give her top weight..WRONG WRONG WRONG!!
If you think a female is the best horse then give her say +4 cap..
The male might be very poor horse and landed last on leader board..so give him -4... all horses in between might have +2 or -2, same, +1 or -1
THIS MUST BE DEDUCTED FROM PRELIM WEIGHT CARRIED......
1.. best...female best horse will now carry 123
2...worst...Male worst horse will carry 118
3....A male maybe 3 or 4th pick might have -1 so will carry 121
Now the owner of the 3rd horse i mentioned CANNOT complain he is 2nd top weight because in reality the female got+4 and he got -1 so he actually has 5 pound better off even though weights say only 2 pound different.
This is so simple and takes maybe 20 minutes to cap a race using history and prelim results.. not sure how others can justify weights they hand out..
Retired Mentally....
Dave
"Sir Slavedave Stables"
""" We make Donkeys fly"""
But I believe both races are not handicapped correctly. There could be more races out there, but I only look at the ones I'm in.
Send them to the computer handicapper then. I'm sure that wouldnt bring any complaints.
All we want is handicapping that is thought thru first and done in a fair fashion. These races aren't and if we can expect similiar finals to be done in this matter then I think we should close the training side of HRF, because we all know the computer handicapping stinks.
http://www.horseracegame.com/community/handicapper/18935
Every race is handicapped the same way 114lbs for some horses 50-1 and 4-1. Its a nightmare that you stewards or whoever is in charge to let any of these races go. I cant believe how bad they are done. Who is watching the handicappers? Why did Puddles had out of these stewards badges if a non steward like myself has to post poor handicapped races?
I expect somebody to look over every open race and do something about them. Because all these races are being handicapped wrong and your basically stealing points away from the trainers who entered these tourneys.
I just quickly assessed my assessment and here are my assessments assessmented results below..
horse... ... avg SR wt prelim ... +/-.. final weight..
1. river run 125 ..... 122. .... -4. .... 118
2.holy ghost 133 .... 119. .... -2. .. 117
3..king ron 130 .... 122. ..... -2. .. 120
4..twin engine 139 .... 122. ... +1. ... 123
5..all to myself 133... 119. ... -2. .... 117
6..bubble butt 110... 119. .. -100.... 19 pounds
7..carazon sal 125... 119. ... -4. ... 115
8..indomiable 141... 122. .. +2. .... 124
thats how i would assess the assessd in order to have blanket finish..(except bubble butt lmaooooooo)
not so easy with SLOP sr's but it shows how easy it is to simple give +/- adjustments to prelim carried weights without screwing or priviling any horses more then needed..
Stay tuned for chapter 1034 of handicappers dialy..
Dave.
"Sir Slavedave Stables"
""" We make Donkeys fly"""
I defended Xaundu On the Big Guns Final but disagree with the weights in this finals. I think he may be another that is trying to cap too many races at once. He has displayed some knowledge of capping in most of his finals, so obviously doing too many at once.