Horse Racing Fantasy Community

How about a tournament for tournament winners!!.
Only horses that have produced a tournament win are elligible for these tournaments. This should bring some decent horses...

Or maybe tournaments for millionaires !!
Horses that have earnings over 1 million$ can race here only . This for sure would bring some great horses.

Every trainer wants to be competitive and have and chance to win, not just go in and get defeated. I think that a partial answer is having Super or Mega Tournaments with five to six races per horse with about 15 to 18 races available so that one or even three horses cannot totally dominate the tournament.

With this set up and having horses run on a mixture of surfaces will allow for this type of tournament to be successful. For example if you have a few Dirt Fast, Sand Fast, Turf Hard and Synthetic Surfaces with mixed distances say from 8 to 12 furlongs the tournaments will include such variety that it would make for a more wide open tournament with the versatility of various Surfaces and Distances. This way you can get the best of the best all in one tournament while giving trainers the opportunity to be somewhat successful in some of the races they choose to enter that are a good fit for their horse(s).

I suggest a 40 horse entry minimum for the first tournament to see if it fills. It could also have two semi final races (for horse $ earnings ) with two sets of ten horses running in these races and with the top five from each semi final making it to the BC Final for the points prizes. At about 35K Entry No fee X 40 horses = 1,400,000 Points pool prize.

Yeah a good start for suggestions. Im wondering how much interest there is in the community with this aspect of the game. I guess well see when the other side of the world awake.

I would definately be interested in it. I've been suggesting optional claimers for awhile now, but no response.

Excellent suggestion. Never thought of multiple surfaces, but definately attracts a wider range of horses. Finals would need to be run on a neutral surface which is not east to accomodate for entrants. Maybe Synthetic or the like. A good spread of races with fields around 6 to 8 horses sounds good.
Maximum 2 horse entry per stable in addition maybe restricted to a minimum birth SR of 125 to ensure tough competition. Sounds like a wish list, but maybe there is more ideas for future development or tweaking the current game somehow.

Good ideas, but how about a large tourney with a set-up like the ACTUAL triple crown? There could be 15-20 qualifying races, with a certain amount of earnings needed for a three race "Triple Crown".
Each crown race could have a field of 20 with a huge pay-out. If a portion of the winning horse's winnings for each qualifying race went into the kitty (say, 10-15%) that could be $20,000 per horse, per win x 20 races + an entry fee of $10,000 per qualifying race, per horse, with a field of 10-20 per qualifying race, would equal...quite a bit for the final three races, just like the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont. Each qualifier would have to pay smaller amounts, just to get the pot large enough for huge points payouts. This would, in essence, be one very large tourney, with up to 23 races, taking about 1 month of a 3 year old's racing life. I am too tired (third shift) to do the math, but it could be huge! There could even be TWO touneys at once: a 5-8 sprinter, and an 8.5-12 classic. It would surely draw the best horses, each with about 6 chances/races to qualify. With about $60,000 in fees per horse, and at least ten horses per race, the final three races could offer huge payouts, with a bonus going to a triple crown winner, if any horse was good enough to win all three races. What say you?
Beefy
It sounds expensive, but if you look at a tourney with a 25k buy in, plus 5k per race, that could total 40k per horse, so it isn't that bad. In actuality, you would need a field of twenty for each race, with a top prize of say, $50,000 to win, 25k to place, and a 15k to show. This could still leave over 100k per qualifier that could go to the final three races purses. That would be two million points. Throw in another 5k entry fee for the top 20 qualifiers, times three races, and you are at about 2.3 million points, give or take, for the final three races. The numbers were just thrown together, i was more or less trying to throw out the idea of a possible race set up, so, forgive my math if it is incorrect, as I just worked 3pm to 7am, and the math part of my head may not be working properly, LOL!

Your Idea about the triple crown simulation is sound and I believe is the next logical
step for this great game. It needs to be held only once a year coinciding with the RL
triple crown. It can be a three tourney setup with the kentucky derby tourney having
10 to 15 qualifying races and the preakness and belmont tourneys being one race stand
alone tournies. Fun times and a great event to plan for annualy.

Puddles just imagine the points being purchased in prep for this event ... every year a
boost in sales right around tax time. I can garantee you I would budget $49 for the right
to breed a triple crown winner every year :p

Good fun for customers good business for HRF. win win me thinks.

Sam

These tournaments will have to be created by HRF as the community is limited to only what is available in the "Request Tournament" section. I hope that the general community accepts some form of this concept. I think that some members do themselves a disservice when they vote no for tournaments of those with very good horses whose high entry fee tournaments keep being denied and used as no votes by the general community for other tournaments. Those that do that in a sense shoot themselves in the foot because now with nowhere to run their horse(s), the trainers of those very good to monster horses become sharks looking for the next best tournament to enter. Sometimes sandbagging is done out of necessity because of some of the denied tournaments.

One of the unspoken strategies of this game is to avoid the best competition which may adversely affect a horses career $ earnings. Tournaments like this will in a sense level the playing field and draw the best in for the potential earnings from various multiple races available and large pool prizes.

I think that such tournaments should be done at least semi-annually and announced 30 days in advance so that those that would like to participate do not enter other tournaments that will conflict with entering these Special or Mega tournaments. I know that I wouldn't mind some of the best horses being tied up for 30 days or so, so that I can enter my lower rated performers in tournaments knowing that a major group of the best will not be sandbagging lower tournaments as they go for horse $ earnings and big pool prizes. Of course this will not completely get them all out of the way as some will not enter and attempt to win those smaller tournaments along with the smaller pool prizes. It is what it is.

Trainer horses earning place badges in these Special, Mega tournaments should indicate that they were earned in such a tournament.

I don't think this would work since most players would only put their horse in the tourny if the horse likes the conditions of the FINAL.

How about tournaments by special invitation which do not count in aging but lets all best horses run at best age.

i think all suggestions are brill, but we must keep the field to ten in finals cos outside draws of twenty have a disadvantage and we would not find champs just horses with luck on there side just a thought.

I agree with the year end idea, and for the sake of an example, i offer the following:
10-12 horses per race
15 qualifying races
10,000 pts per race
top 20 qualify for the final THREE races
additional 10,000 pts for each of the final three races
Equals about 2.1 million in points to spread among the final three races.
HRF could actually make it an even 15k per race to ensure they get their cut, and there would be some left in case they want to give a bonus if a horse wins all three races. In fairness, all of the qualifying races would have to be 10-12 F, just so everyone knows what their horses are capable of. It seems expensive, but winning just ONE of the final THREE races could net you about 500,000-700,000 pts. Everyone has to remember that the dollars you win in the prelims are only career earnings, not points. I would say that spending 6-7 dollars is a small investment, when you can walk away with basically $50 just for winning ONE RACE!!!
Beefy

This could be something very big for a lot of people! Whether it be my suggestion, or someone else's, this big tourney thing is a good idea!