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you can vet the horse. Half the price of breeding a new one, you essentially get a new horse of the same breeding but you get to keep the same name, color, and sex. Sometimes it makes a decent horse, sometimes not, but if you're already under 90, it can't get much worse.

chicken rules he never loses

Look for restricted races with horses under SR 100 and head for those tournaments. might run a place and slowly get ya points back rather then retiring it just yet.
Also have you tryed every track? every surface, fast, slow, sloppy?
some horse love 1 particular track and really love say sloppy even tho the report said no good on sloppy. report is only a guide. not always correct ..... test everything and you might find your horse can stay with others at certian settings.. remember in sloppy your sr would need to be 130+ to have a chance of a place in a tournament . All sr" improve in sloppy.
also have you adjusted jockey instructions yet and target speeds?
I ask all this because these little things can change a race finish buy up to 10 lengths either better or worse.
Good luck with it all.
Davo

Here Comes Thunder destroys this horse. Chicken is solid, but he can lose

Refer to your comment, we able to set jockey instructions and horses target pace but from what i know, we just can set that in Advance Mode but not in real tourneys..
You may see in real tourneys we just can setting jockey instructions for jockey strategy (safe ground or avoid traffic) and pace strategy (go fast,go slow and true running style) but not the target pace...How you keep your horses target pace in Advance Mode to real tourneys ??
I tought they only using their real target pace as program set it to you same in Advance Mode for real tourneys challenge...
Sorry if i wrong

maizal

I'm still working hard on trying to figure this out for sure... but so far it seems to me that the (target) pace your horse will run in a tourney is related to the pre-race workout and to a slightly lesser extent how ideal the racing conditions are (distance, surface seem to be the major factors for this part).
The dreaded clunker plays its part too... but I also think clunkers can be minimised quite a lot by getting everything else right.

As I said, this is still work in progress but I will gladly share any info I learn.

Please, feel free to shoot me down in flames on this... it will help me learn... or share your experiences.

i posted this as i was of the thinking the question related to advance mode and he was having problems beating super horses in advance mode.
which is hard to do anyway.. lmao...
I maybe read the first question wrong.. lol
no sleep makes the old eyes watery..
LMAO....
I knew the experts would be here to help out anyway and i got my 10points..
lol lol
Davo.

I had a horse that was 83 I vetted him and got 73.
Then I had a 99 vetted got 90.7
98 with excellent early speed and good break, vetted got 97 with average early speed and average break.
Decided not to vet any more. Thats 30000 pts I have wasted on 3 useless horses.
I'm sure they do let some improve, but to me its too expensive to be worth the risk.

I also think that the pace other horses run at can effect your horses speed. In the recent race where wells fargo got beat the pace was really fast and wells got sucked in where as the winner didnt. I reckon (Just a theory) If your horse tends to race against or stalk the leaders then you need to assess wether there are a lot of front runners in the race. If their is then decide wether it is worth trying to beat them of try and sit off them by going slower and picking them off?

When I practice I notice that my horses have set paces to aim at and these coincide with where they sit for most of the race. It may take time but might be worth look ing through past races of other horses in the race.

P.S. Not sure if this is helpful or a load of bullocks?

Somthing i have read in forum and i plan to do myself in the next 2 weeks is jump my horse (nag, donkey) directly into a higher age group race tournament.,, what this will do is age your horse imediatly and depending your horses peak racing age is where i will target.
I figure i wasted good points on the horse i should give him 1 chance to a tourny to even run a 4th for me and get somthing back... then if nothing retire him...... i think some poeple may retire a horse not really understanding exactly what he wants and from what i see in help info and forum is that inside a tournament with real training is where your horse progress... improvment small or big you just dont know until tourny.
So for me personally rather then off to retirement fast i will give all horse 1 chance to prove themselves... then they goners...
I have a good friend has spent 400k on new horses and 90%were donkeys hahahahahahaa poor guy. giving them all 1 chance just might get somthing back even if only small.
The other thing that has given me hope is reading how many donkeys there are in play right now... only 2 things can happen, 1. many many horses in retirement.. or 2...... many races with donkeys in them..now this gives our donkeys a hope at a little stardom i think..

As forthe vet,,,,,,, all info i have heard from many members the end result is close to this (never vet under 100 or over120) if in the middle it is probably half decent anyway so a vet check could improve to 120+ if ya lucky.

ok enough now..not happy with horse to so trying to make exuses for him..
lmaooooooooooooo.
Davo

There's been a few threads that end up talking about vetting... you might want to try and find them to get your own opinion of what they say.
To me (I've vetted the majority of mine before the price change) it seems the lowest and the highest rated horses are the worst ones to vet - they seem to have a much better chance of coming back with a lower SR.
You then have to decide the range you are prepared to risk... personally I still think anything between 100-115 are worth vetting - but even the lower ones of these seem to have less improvement.
I still like to run them first as the SR only tells half the story - only really useful for extremes (ie a 140SR is prolly going to be ok - I don't know as I've never had one - and a 80SR is prolly gonna struggle).

Others have different experiences with vetting. Some of the bigger stables won't bother with anything under 100 - presumably because they have a lot of experience of them coming back even worse.

I agree with you about the cost... these new prices are forcing me to rethink my strategy... might actually stick to claiming - at least you get to see it before you buy it!!

Good luck to you whatever you do.

me too..i also still learning to get more understand about trainer game..I have asked puddles about this a few days ago..here is the answer :-

The settings in the game will NOT effect the way he runs in the tournament. those settings are just for you to test your horse when training . Your horse has his setting locked down on our server and those are what we use. When you train before the race and give instructions (jockey and training ) from the race entry page those settings will effect your horse. I hope this helps.

I hope you will learn something from his explanation..glad to share

maizal

That is pretty much what we thought... I don't suppose you can get Puddles to tell you exactly what effect different instructions have on different types of horses!?!
No, of course not! That's what the Trainers have to work out... but dunno how we can work this out without having workouts before our private races?!

Never mind - I suppose if it was too easy we would all be bored!

Thanks for the info.

First,Chicken can lose cause I beat him once out of three races and my horse is just a 113.5 or so.
Second, as far as the settings go,I'm confused as to which of the two screens is the official one.My race is on the 7th and although my horse is running up a storm in practices,I want to make sure that I'm setting him up correctly before the race.
Anyway,this is an interesting topic kindur,glad you brought it up.

But if you have a horse that likes to run in front and there are 2 other horses the same then they are going to race against each other to get the early lead. Thus opening the door for the later runners in the race. If you have the only horse likely to compete for the front in the race then the horse can run his own race and perform to his own preferances.

I think there are usually only 3-4 horses likely to win a race. If you can try and predict the pace of the other horses you can try and put yourself in the advantage.

My theory is going to be put to the test as my horses race over the next week.
Starting tomorrow. Stucandoit has been 4th in both his races but with very poor sr's both times. If he had hit his potential sr in either race he would have won. So Instead of going for his normal speed I will get him to go faster as he has set faster sr's in training by going fast as opposed to normal or slower.
This race is tonight so Lets see how he does.

Set up races with identical conditions to your tourny run your horse changing the instructions slightly each time see which gets the fastest SR then give that instruction for the race.
Thats my theory anyway.

Hi steve-I know that much.
What I'm asking is where in the game do you insert the settings for the actual race itself come race day?
I can't find the info anywhere and my mentor is at work.lol

72 hours before the race you get a reminder to set jockey and trainer instructions
Go to the race page either Via the reminder on you game panel under messages or alerts.
Or via tourny page. At the bottom of the race page you will find a box to tick for your horse and the instructins you can set.

If you mean in practice you have a box just before the race that says adjust race something? Click on that then onto your horse in the new screen. Then set you instructions from there

billy i think the tourny you entered starts on the 7th right? my understanding is you will get messages on the 7th reminding you that u need to enter 1 or more races and set instructions.
again i might be wrong but i will find out on the 8th when mine starts.

you may find the tourny starts 7th but first race may not be on the 7th... hope the other guys correct me so i also know exactly.
Davo

Once the tourney starts there is a mad rush to enter your horse into the trial/qualifying races. Remember these races are limited - so to ensure you get the distance and conditions you want, make sure you get in early!

Once you've entered your races you just wait. 72 hours before the race starts you get 48 hours to enter jockey and workout instructions.

If you are entering this tourney just to get a rating so that you can enter a restricted tourney next then you should remember that you cannot quit a tourney if you are still entered in any races in that tourney.
So you would just enter 1 race and then quit... but tbh it's prolly best to use all races in the tourney to try and see what workouts are best.

Keep a note of the workouts you use so that you know what works for you.
I've read that workouts can change your horses ability by +/- 2%. That can make quite a difference to the final SR so you want to get it right.

And be careful with jockey instructions... every time I try and go faster or slower I always get a lower SR than usual - might just be that my horses don't like jockey instructions!!

Good luck in your tournies - might even see you there!

Thanks Ronster for the tips and info.
Don't know how you guys felt before your first try at this,but I'm nervous.
Especially because my horse is running well in practices.
You know,the fear of flopping when it counts.lol

Its all about getting to know your horse. Getting the best out of your horse. Sometimes you will get it wrong. Infact I get it wrong 100% of the time ha ha. But if your horse does perform at somewhere near it's best then you will be near the top at the end. (assuming the rest of the horses in the race are not better and performing).

It's all about patience. Know your horses distances and racing to it's strength. Your horse may race many times before you get a good race or it may prove consistantly good. You never know till you try.

I was mainly worried that I would miss something... wasn't too nervous about the race cos it took a while for me to get anything that looked like it might be related to a race horse... so I knew I had no hope!

But now that I have one that might win I'm worried I'll blow it for him!

Anyway, don't worry about missing anything... just keep track of your dates... and check your stable page daily... there's always a visual reminder there telling you a tourney has started or that you need to enter Jockey/Trainer instructions.

I'm gonna win a tourney this year... I just know it!!

Another tip.
I read somewhere on forum that you should write down the instructions and stuff so that you remember what you put. as once you have raced there is no way of veiwing your previous instructions. And there is usually a long gap between races.

I got a memory like a sieve!

Yeah I always write everything down and am a careful observer.
From what I've seen though,my horse flies UNLESS the track is muddy or just a lil wet.
Then he's a totally different animal,he'll run well but flop at the end.
Do they ever overcome this or it is a trait for the life of the horse?

so true...
Would be much easier with 3 simple chioces.
1...... flog it softly.
2...... flog it normaly
3.. ...dont stop flogging it
i would pick 3 for mine HAHHAHAHAAHAAAAAAA...

Probably best to just avoid those conditions. I not been on long enough to know from experience. One thing to watch is the age of the tournament as one of my horses is now 4 years old because I did not check this.

You are able to record comments for every tournament and then go back to review these comments using your training tools in your stable page. Very easy to review at any time.

-ModGraphix-

Cheers Mod
Never thought of that!

Always here to help Steve :) Cheers my friend!!

-ModGraphix-

You can also upgrade your stable with VIP Features for a one time fee of 50,000 pts...doesn't mean you become a VIP just special upgrades for your stable.

-ModGraphix-

Nice to know-I never used the comments feature cause I thought they would be publicly seen.

Me too. I thought it was a bit like the forum.

Comments on your own page are completely private. Excellent feature!!

-ModGraphix-

Yes it is-oh well the tourney begins tomorrow at about 5:30 P.m-I cant wait to pick and enter the races.
But the darned e-mail won't arrive.lol
We shall see how it goes.
I'm expecting at least a decent result but these things are more unpredictable than women,so you never know.

Good luck bro!

How come Billy getsa community participant badge and I dont?
He says on his 73rd post!

as Modgraphix said..you will see other features in your stable page by upgrade your account to vip members ..you never know until you make it.. :)

maizal

thx steve for the best wishes.
About the badge:I got 25 wins through betting yesterday and still no badge and I have perceived a sort of latency around here in some features...so I just think it's a matter of time.:-)

and speaking of badges....maizal that 100 tourney win sure is impressive.:-)

many peoples around here have this badges .. it took 4 month for me to get it .. you will get it soon if you continue playing jockey tourneys ... be patient and good luck :)

maizal

Well I come from winning 6 races a couple minutes ago in a jock tourney so it should be my second tourney win(I hope).
Continued success-may you win many more.;-)

congratulation to you billy...more luck after this :) the badges on the way to your profile :)

maizal

I look at the forums most days and often think what new player think after reading some remarks when we talk about SRs , this starting SR can mislead you , i hear trainers say they retire horses with starting SRs of 115 and under , well i would say that these trainers already have decent horses in there stable and maybe they dont want to spend the time training with low SR horses or they are in search for that super horse with the high SR
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My first horse that i purchased , Light of my Life , has a starting SR of 105.5 , well he does not sound like a superstar with that low SR , but this horse is a super horse in my eyes , but not only in my eyes , this horse with his SR of 105 stand tall on the Horses stats page , he has had 23 starts with 10 wins Earned $1,337,500 and 292.552 points , and stand in about 25th place on this horse stats page .
So what i am saying to new players is that a horses SR is not everything , the main thing for new players is get your horse give your horse a chance ,do the training , make your own judgement .
Have Fun While learning this game .
Good Luck
-Craztphil-

My first horse that i purchased , Light of my Life , has a starting SR of 105.5 , well he does not sound like a superstar with that low SR , but this horse is a super horse in my eyes , but not only in my eyes , this horse with his SR of 105 stand tall on the Horses stats page , he has had 23 starts with 10 wins Earned $1,337,500 and 292.552 points , and stand in about 25th place on this horse stats page .
So what i am saying to new players is that a horses SR is not everything , the main thing for new players is get your horse give your horse a chance ,do the training , make your own judgement

Point well taken Phil and glad to see your horse turned out to be that good.My first bred was 113-I hope he can win some money as well.
I will take this advice to heart just because it rings true and logical.:-)

What you say Phil is more than just correct. Horse racing is not just about owning better horses. It is about getting the best out of the horses you own. getting points is not having the best horse but having the best performer in the race. Or in HRF case tournament. Phil I take it your horse would not compete with Wells fargo for eg? But because you have raced it correctly in the right type of company you have produced some outstanding results. You are clearly worth listening to regarding managing horses.
Well done.

Flyingdaaka will take "Here Comes Thunder" and match race any of these slobs you people have "created" against her. 1 mile, 5 furlongs, 440 yards, the distance is irrelevant. In Flyingdaaka's self-created, FREE tournaments, she is unbeatable.

What's her record flyingdaaka?
I don't have a horse for her now but I'm breeding in about two weeks and I might take your challenge on and see what hapens.

Its sure a great game and open to all levels of players , with the Insta tournaments soon to start and then the auction to follow these will bring a whole new dimention to the game , i think the auction appeals to me most , i cant wait to see what decent horses will be sold for , i think with the jackpots that will be on offer i can see large amounts of points being paid for horses .
Phil