I have been training horses for about a week now. It appears that you attempt to run races that correspond to the horses style, ability and endurance. That's pretty simple - unless I'm missing something. It would be great if a few of you could fill in the blanks as to your own personal training experience and anything I'm missing here. Not much one can do to train a new horse that rates in the 90 percentile or lower.
If you can beat Jury Duty, Wild Aces, Chicken you might have a chance in a tournament.
From now on, when I breed a horse with any number less than 100, he/she is being retired.
Just a little side note for those who might be interested. I grew up next door to a race track. As young boys, we used to clean stalls and spend alot of time around the track. Would ask for programs from patrons leaving after the first race (Daily Double Loosers) and sell them for 15 cents. The cost was .35 cents. That was back in the 1950's. My best friends father owned some horses - it's a who you know business!
chicken rules he never loses
Look for restricted races with horses under SR 100 and head for those tournaments. might run a place and slowly get ya points back rather then retiring it just yet.
Also have you tryed every track? every surface, fast, slow, sloppy?
some horse love 1 particular track and really love say sloppy even tho the report said no good on sloppy. report is only a guide. not always correct ..... test everything and you might find your horse can stay with others at certian settings.. remember in sloppy your sr would need to be 130+ to have a chance of a place in a tournament . All sr" improve in sloppy.
also have you adjusted jockey instructions yet and target speeds?
I ask all this because these little things can change a race finish buy up to 10 lengths either better or worse.
Good luck with it all.
Davo
Here Comes Thunder destroys this horse. Chicken is solid, but he can lose
Refer to your comment, we able to set jockey instructions and horses target pace but from what i know, we just can set that in Advance Mode but not in real tourneys..
You may see in real tourneys we just can setting jockey instructions for jockey strategy (safe ground or avoid traffic) and pace strategy (go fast,go slow and true running style) but not the target pace...How you keep your horses target pace in Advance Mode to real tourneys ??
I tought they only using their real target pace as program set it to you same in Advance Mode for real tourneys challenge...
Sorry if i wrong
maizal
I'm still working hard on trying to figure this out for sure... but so far it seems to me that the (target) pace your horse will run in a tourney is related to the pre-race workout and to a slightly lesser extent how ideal the racing conditions are (distance, surface seem to be the major factors for this part).
The dreaded clunker plays its part too... but I also think clunkers can be minimised quite a lot by getting everything else right.
As I said, this is still work in progress but I will gladly share any info I learn.
Please, feel free to shoot me down in flames on this... it will help me learn... or share your experiences.
i posted this as i was of the thinking the question related to advance mode and he was having problems beating super horses in advance mode.
which is hard to do anyway.. lmao...
I maybe read the first question wrong.. lol
no sleep makes the old eyes watery..
LMAO....
I knew the experts would be here to help out anyway and i got my 10points..
lol lol
Davo.
I had a horse that was 83 I vetted him and got 73.
Then I had a 99 vetted got 90.7
98 with excellent early speed and good break, vetted got 97 with average early speed and average break.
Decided not to vet any more. Thats 30000 pts I have wasted on 3 useless horses.
I'm sure they do let some improve, but to me its too expensive to be worth the risk.
I also think that the pace other horses run at can effect your horses speed. In the recent race where wells fargo got beat the pace was really fast and wells got sucked in where as the winner didnt. I reckon (Just a theory) If your horse tends to race against or stalk the leaders then you need to assess wether there are a lot of front runners in the race. If their is then decide wether it is worth trying to beat them of try and sit off them by going slower and picking them off?
When I practice I notice that my horses have set paces to aim at and these coincide with where they sit for most of the race. It may take time but might be worth look ing through past races of other horses in the race.
P.S. Not sure if this is helpful or a load of bullocks?
Somthing i have read in forum and i plan to do myself in the next 2 weeks is jump my horse (nag, donkey) directly into a higher age group race tournament.,, what this will do is age your horse imediatly and depending your horses peak racing age is where i will target.
I figure i wasted good points on the horse i should give him 1 chance to a tourny to even run a 4th for me and get somthing back... then if nothing retire him...... i think some poeple may retire a horse not really understanding exactly what he wants and from what i see in help info and forum is that inside a tournament with real training is where your horse progress... improvment small or big you just dont know until tourny.
So for me personally rather then off to retirement fast i will give all horse 1 chance to prove themselves... then they goners...
I have a good friend has spent 400k on new horses and 90%were donkeys hahahahahahaa poor guy. giving them all 1 chance just might get somthing back even if only small.
The other thing that has given me hope is reading how many donkeys there are in play right now... only 2 things can happen, 1. many many horses in retirement.. or 2...... many races with donkeys in them..now this gives our donkeys a hope at a little stardom i think..
As forthe vet,,,,,,, all info i have heard from many members the end result is close to this (never vet under 100 or over120) if in the middle it is probably half decent anyway so a vet check could improve to 120+ if ya lucky.
ok enough now..not happy with horse to so trying to make exuses for him..
lmaooooooooooooo.
Davo
you can vet the horse. Half the price of breeding a new one, you essentially get a new horse of the same breeding but you get to keep the same name, color, and sex. Sometimes it makes a decent horse, sometimes not, but if you're already under 90, it can't get much worse.