Tourneys WEIGHTS needed Adjusting!!

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Hi guys,

I have read all puddles posting regarding weights, handicap, finals etc. But everyone is entittled to an opinion so heres mine.

BIG BOYS Final - Congratulations to Ron War! - But there is no doubt in my mind Doc Beauty should have carried the top weight! Doc beauty who continues to win GP1 & 2 races especially breeders finals must carry some penalty! Giving the DOC 107 is like kiss the race good bye its all over, early xmas present...smiles Arabic 119 poor horse no chance!

My suggestion i feel perhaps horses that specialise in particular distances like Doc beauty who loves the slop and sprints, and very consistence must recieve penalty in a sprint Final. While horses that prefer other distances and surfaces are given allowances(less weight) this way the back markers can run on.

If u need help with the weight formula im always available....smiles but the weights are more realistic now jus one or two adjustments....keep up the gud work HRF

If anyone would like to share some thoughts feel free!

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AGREEE!!!

i agree with you lee why the hell was my horse carrying the top weight he is definitly not the top horse in that field he had no hope.

peace rlp..

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I like your idea .

From what your saying is a good HUMAN HANDICAPPER would of added more weight to that horse? Sounds like a good idea.

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I TOTALLY DISAGREE...THE WEIGHTS WERE PERFECT!

:) Just kidding. I've been on both sides of this fence and it feels better to be on the winning side of it. That's why I think what Puddles posted in his latest blog is right on point. No matter how complex the computer algorithms are to produce weights they will be off in some instances. I do believe the best solution is to have a certain group of community-handicappers do the weights and the line. They will still be off, not everyone would be happy, but I think it would be more realistic. If I was handicapping the race lee speaks of, I would have made the weights like this:




PP Horse Name Wt Odds Sex Age
1 Robin Goodfellow  115 5-2 M 3
2 Ugly  112 5-1 F 3
3 Doc Beauty  118 3-5 F 3
4 Legend Of Darkness  108 15-1 F 3
5 Arabic Kehilan  114 9-2 M 3


as opposed to this:




PP Horse Name Wt Odds Sex Age
1 Robin Goodfellow  106 6-1 M 3
2 Ugly  102 5-1 F 3
3 Doc Beauty  107 2-1 F 3
4 Legend Of Darkness  108 7-2 F 3
5 Arabic Kehilan  119 8-5 M 3


Still not perfect, but whaddya going to do?

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May they all come home safely!!!

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Your Hired

This will be exciting for sure

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LOL

Someone else to take all the stick .

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mmm

there is not anymore the option to delete my post?

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Just noticed this race...

Not sure my views are welcome anymore but I think ronwar is pretty close with his weights there.
I guess it's a bit easier to handicap a race after it's been run!

It's races like this that make it really difficult to understand how the weights are assigned. I had one of my few buddy challenge bets in this race (I'm 0 for 4 or something - before anyone else points this out!) so I had already watched all of the participants trials noting their skills/stats, races and results.

For what its worth I made it quite a close race - I expected Doc to carry a little more weight than Arabic since Doc prefers the going and the distance and had won a little more prize money and I thought these were factors in the weighting.
But seeing weight assignments like those in this final sends me back to the drawing board!

I'm struggling to see anything that warrants Arabic carrying so much more weight than the others. If anyone can tell me roughly why (I understand it's complex - but anything would help) I would really appreciate it.
Its not that I'm bothered about losing a whole 500 points - I'm not! I just wanna get a feel for the weights.

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This should help with this issue
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RLP, Lee and Ronster, I

RLP, Lee and Ronster, I could explain you the reason for those strange weights (I wrote a post this morning about it, but I've deleted/modified it), but I'll wait after the new handicapping decision has been taken with certainty..

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Ronnie

Ofcourse your views are welcome,that's what makes this the greatest and most addicting fantasy horse racing sim ever!

Everyone has an opinion and tries to improve on Mikes Baby,HRF
The fact that he listens and has the power and desire to always improve,shows why we like it so much and will never get bored.

It's evolving with the pulse of the people

-MoTron-

PS:Why is yr horse so tiny?
Feed it some food or something

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Thanks Motron

I agree the rapid evolution is a big part of the appeal here... but the friendly community helps too!

(for my response to the tiny horse go here
http://www.horseracegame.com/community/forum/topic/201038/when-does-pudd...)

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