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Fun Horse Names for Our Thoroughbred Born on January 1st - He's Going to the Kentucky Derby. What name should this horse have?
Born First Run First - Perfect name for a horse we expect to win a lot of stake races
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Happy New Year Baby - With all the money this horse will earn, it's going to be a great racing year!
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Follow Your Elders - Born before the other horses, this is a perfect name for a leader on his way to the Triple Crown.
8%
Can Run From Day One - Born early and ready to race. Bring on the bed of roses!
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January's First - This guy will be first on that First Saturday in May when he crosses the finish line for the Kentucky Derby.
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Big Brown Loves New Jersey
Posted on: Thu, 08/21/2008 - 1:20pm
Big Brown Loves New Jersey
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well should be an interesting race...I think this race will have a lot of entries, to get a crack at this huge purse.
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I thought they would have picked a better race then that...but since they upped the purse, I guess that's what swayed thier decision.
they did not really up the purse...they created the whole race for him.
i think that he will run well and show his real talents on the grass
Wasn't it this same track, years ago, that lured Spend A Buck, by creating a race, with a big purse just to lure him and kept him from running in another big, more traditional race?
Just to clarify gentlemen...Monmouth created the Monmouth Stakes to lure Big Brown with a base purse of $200,000. The wrote into the conditions that if Big Brown ran, the purse would be bolstered to $500,000. Tracks do this kind of stuff alot to try and lure big name horses to track they wouldn't normal travel to. Suffolk Downs tried doing the same type of thing with the Massachusetts Handicap, where they announced the purse would be raised to $2,000,000 if Curlin and Big Brown both entered. It made headlines, but I don't even think the connections of either horse considered it.
The owners of, Curlin are still considering the possibility of running him in the Breeder's Cup Classic at Santa Anita next month. It will depend on how he comes out of the Jockey Club Gold Cup to be run this coming Saturday. They said they'll make their final decision to run within ten days after the Gold Cup.
They are also considering two other races for , Curlin, other than the Classic, after the Jockey Club Gold Cup. They're very concerned about running Curlin on Santa Anita's newly installed and untested, synthetic surface. They would like to and are considering taking Curlin back home to California, after the Gold Cup race and letting him exercise over the new surface.
Curlin's connections are contemplating running him as a 5 year old and would like Big Brown's connections to run their horse as a four year old. If this takes place, then there is a likelihood that they could meet someday. Personally, I don't think it will be in the Classic.
There's lots going on behind the scenes to keep the good horses around another year of racing, before going off to stud duty.
A couple of good, accomplished European horses will come across the pond to try their best to upset, Big Brown. Should be a very exciting race. I plan on attending next years Breeder's Cup races that will also be run at Santa Anita Park , in California.
Have you seriously seen Curlin's people talking about racing him next year? Where?
It makes no sense from a business point of view. I would be the first to applaud Jess Jackson for running him this year, and taking the risk to do so. But I might drop dead of a heart attack if he comes back next year. There is too much money to be made with him at stud.
Big Brown is definitely done after this year. It's the smart move.
Curlin vs. Big Brown still a possibility:::
Jackson has yet to commit Curlin to a defense of his Breeders' Cup Classic title at Santa Anita's Oak Tree meeting, but he is in the process of doing due diligence. He already has made one site survey at Santa Anita to see the installation of the synthetic Pro-Ride surface, and on Tuesday's conference call, he said he intended to make another visit to Santa Anita quite soon.
"The surface is untested," Jackson said. "I'd like to see Curlin on the track, but we're not going to decide whether to ship him until we see how he performs in the Jockey Club Gold Cup.
"We may ship Curlin out to California," Jackson said. "I'd like to see him on it. A lot will be determined over the next week with the Pro-Ride at Santa Anita."
Jackson, who lives in California, said he would "really like to see Curlin race here." But he reiterated that no decision would be made until next week at the earliest.
Jackson said other races under consideration for Curlin are the Clark Handicap at Churchill Downs on Nov. 28, and the Japan Cup Dirt on Dec. 7. This year's Japan Cup Dirt will be run at Hanshin over a clockwise, or right-handed, course.
"So much depends on the condition of the horse," Jackson said regarding the Breeders' Cup. He said other factors to consider, besides the new Pro-Ride surface, are getting Curlin acclimated to the surface before the race, as well as "my desire to see him run against the best anywhere."
"Those are the plusses and minuses of the Breeders' Cup," Jackson said.
Jackson said the thought of running in the Classic against Big Brown and European standouts Henrythenavigator and Duke of Marmalade was enticing.
"I think it will be a star-studded field," Jackson said. "I hope we could compete."
Jackson said he had no interest in running in a match race against Big Brown.
- additional reporting by Jay Privman
There is one thing that might just convince owner Jess Jackson to run 2007 Horse of the Year Curlin next year instead of shipping him off to the breeding shed.
“If Big Brown would run as a four-year-old, I’d be very tempted to run Curlin as a five-year-old,” Jackson said on Tuesday during a national teleconference.
“It’s all about competition. Curlin might run as a five-year-old even if Big Brown doesn’t run. You have to look at his health and a lot of other factors. But I’d like to see a lot more people step up and race [their horses] as fours and fives.”
There is one thing that might just convince owner Jess Jackson to run 2007 Horse of the Year Curlin next year instead of shipping him off to the breeding shed.
“If Big Brown would run as a four-year-old, I’d be very tempted to run Curlin as a five-year-old,” Jackson said on Tuesday during a national teleconference.
“It’s all about competition. Curlin might run as a five-year-old even if Big Brown doesn’t run. You have to look at his health and a lot of other factors. But I’d like to see a lot more people step up and race [their horses] as fours and fives.”
I'd like to see it, too. But Jackson took a great leap in running that horse this year when he could probably have dwarfed his 2008 winnings by simply putting him out to stud.
When Jackson talks about running Curlin at five *if* Iavorone will run Big Brown at four, I think that's just more of the same grandstanding we have seen for months. Don't forget, one of these said "If he will bring his horse here to race us, we will donate a lot of money to charity from it." The other one said, "He shouldn't need a horse race to donate that money to charity." Blah, blah, blah.
This reminds me of boxing, in a way.
Like Will Rogers used to say......." All I know is what I read in the newspapers" I posted some info that I read from an artical on the Internet that I came across.
Personally, If I owned the horse and considered running him another year, it certainly wouldn't be based on whether or not, Big Brown was going to return next year as a four year old. On the surface, that part sounds ridiculous.
I do agree, however, that keeping these great horses around at least one more year would be good for the industry. For the fans too.
I'm also well aware of moneys lost from stud duty assignments by doing so.
I'm not trying to knock what you said at all, Rum.
I have become a bit jaded over time. I read the same articles you do, and that's why I said it reminds me of boxing. A lot of people talk a lot to the media about this and that, and whether or not we will see a big matchup is dictated more by sport-politics and money than anything else.
An owner must consider the possibility of a great horse breaking down vice the possibilty of him running for the fans for a 4th or *gasp* 5th year. And having said that, I cannot at all fault the syndicate or owner of a Smarty Jones or Big Brown or Secretariat to retire them after their third year.
In the same place, I guess I would do the same thing. And that makes me one of the bad guys, as far as the fans of the game. And I *am* a fan of the game! It's a snake that eats its own tail, figuratively speaking.
Your point is very well taken, mrmojok. The jaded part, your views, your concerns. Everything. I know you're n ot knocking me.
Btw, I don't see you as one of the bad guys. Your a true racing fan as I am and are merely voicing your opinions. For this, you should be admired.
Belmont has cancelled its entire race card for today. I wonder what the track is going to be like for the Jockey Club Gold Cup Saturday? I am going to have to get a Form and see how these entrants have done in mud previously.
"About an hour after the race, Barbara Banke, wife of owner Jess Jackson, said Curlin was to ship to Santa Anita on Sunday morning to begin getting acclimated to that track's new Pro-Ride synthetic surface. The Breeders' Cup Classic will be held at Santa Anita on Oct. 25."
"We're thinking about it," Jackson said by phone, regarding the Breeders' Cup.
They've kind of been suggesting that recently. Gosh, wouldn't it be nice if they do decide to enter, Curlin in the Breeder's Cup Classic?
Speaking of that new synthetic track at Santa Anita. I saw it for the first time today, but only on TV. It looked nice and the horses seemed to mostly all handle it. I liked how it looked. Instead of looking like white sand, it actually looked brown, like real dirt. Since tracks are going to these new synthetic surfaces, I wouldn't be surprised if this will become a favorite type surface. I understand that Golden Gate Fields is getting good reviews. Way to go, Curlin. We love you.