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You can enter your 2 year old, BUT they will immediately turn 3, with no going back.

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Can anyone explain the rationale for that?
Also does your horse remain 3-years-old if the tournament cancels?
Jim

I'm not altogether sure, but I like a challenge so I will try. The aging process is basically this, three (3) tournaments age your horse one (1) year; If you vet your horse, it is equivalent to one (1) tournament; quit tournaments also count towards the process.

Now, If you have a two (2) year old who is not running well at two (2), and you notice that his peak age is three (3) lets say. Instead of wasting stable and tournament fees, running him in races that he will not do well, you want to get him running where he has a chance right away. So you decide to forgo his two (2) year old campaign and take him straight to three (3) or whatever his peak age is.

By deciding to forgo his two (2) year old campaign to race at a higher age, the rationale is that you no longer want to race him at two (2). It wouldn't make sense to allow players to go back and forth between ages. Once you're 3, you can't be 2; once you're 4 you can't be 3; but if you're 2 and want to be 4 - that's okay!

Hope that helps

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yes horse stay in 3 years

I just reread the second part of your question and a light bulb went off. I have been trying to figure out how one of my horses Robusto aged to be 3 after only 2 tournaments and no vets. He was in a tournament that didn't fill and canceled. I'm not a 100% sure, maybe 95% sure that's what happen. I shot a email to support last week, maybe they are working on it. No big deal on my end, I just stuck him in a 3 year old race and kept it move'n.

Great question! Thanks

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Thank you Ronwar. What you said makes sense for someone who wants to forego his horse's 2-year-old season & get right to the 3-year-old season.
But that was not the case with my horse. I mistakenly entered her in a tournament for 3-year-olds thinking that 2-year-olds could also compete there. After all her name was on the entry list. Now I have lost my horse's entire 2-year-old season & the tournament is very likely to be cancelled for lack of entries.
That does not sound right to me! If the tournament is limited to 3-year-olds then 2-year-olds should not be allowed to enter.
There was no pop-up warning or anything else to alert me to the consequences of entering my horse there.
THIS IS NOT A GOOD RULE!
Jim

Jim,

I wouldn't sweat it too much. My guess is your horse will be better at 3 and his peak age is somewhere between 3.5 and 4.5

If you haven't purchased the performance report a good way to determine the peak age is...(now just keep this between me and you)...set up a race in your game at peak age, that will tell exactly what age he will do his best work.

Once there are more tournaments and tournaments for all ages, I think the key will be to really maximize your horse during those peak times.

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Ronwar, thank you for your encouragement! You are making yourself a good mentor for the game.
My problem with this is that my horse is a MONSTER even at age 2 & now I have lost the opportunity to compete in three 2-year-old tournaments where I had a good shot at winning some points.
Right now I am so mad I can hardly see straight & unfortunately your encouraging words are falling on deaf ears. But thanks for your efforts.
Jim

yes thats true !

If the tourney is cancelled, then I think you have a case to request the horse be reset to pre-tourney age and status.

In my opinion Jim, a canceled tournament is not a tournament at all. Once it is canceled for lack of entries, it should be like it did not exist. Your points are refunded and your horse should return to its status before the canceled tournament. If this is not the case, then IMHO its wrong!

Like I said, that's just my opinion. That and $3.50 will get you a Latte.

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I had the same problem, i withdrew a 2yo from a tournament and entered another and he aged to 3 yo right away cause it was a 3yo tournament, i emailed support and this is the reply i got and i hope it helps to clear some things up cause it was very helpful to me.

The tournament that he withdrew from will still count toward his aging process (as explained in the Trainer Game & Trainer Game Tournament "Get Help" section). And, even though he has aged to a 3-year-old, he can still participate in the 2-year-old tournament(s) he may be entered in. Aging him just qualifies him now for entry into the 3-year-old tournaments, as well. Also, if you obtained a vet visit for this horse, that also will count toward his aging.

sundown

You pulling your horse out (quitting a tournament) is different from the tournament canceling on you. In one you have control, in the other you do not.

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Dusty -

This is actually a very good thread and we've had several meetings on this and here's what's happening and why. Normally when you enter a tournament where the age is the same - for example, your horse is a 2-year-old and you enter a 2-year-old tournament - then the tournament does not fill and is canceled, you will automatically be given your entry fees back and the horse is eligible for another tournament right away. This is simple and fair, but there are two scenarios that make it a little more difficult. The first is when your horse is 2, but has no more 2-year-old tournament options (he's now been in 3 tournaments), so the next tournament you enter him in, he will be 3. In this particular case, you will NOT be able to enter him in a 3-year-old tournament until that last 2-year-old tournament has at least started. Because, if that third 2-year-old tournament cancels, technically, you should be able to enter your horse in another 2-year-old tournament and that would be the case except, planning ahead, you entered your horse in a 3-year-old tournament. So, once again, if you are signed up for a 2-year-old tournament and it's your last eligible one and your next tournament will be for a 3-year-old, you will not be able to enter that 3-year-old tournament until that 2-year-old tournament is confirmed as started. This solves some of the current problems we are having.

But, here is the third situation. Your horse is a 2-year-old, he has another 2-year-old tournament he can enter, but the player decides to skip tournaments (for whatever reason, maybe because the horse will be a better 3-year-old or even 4-year-old) - in that case, if you enter a 4-year-old tournament and that tournament is canceled (again, all entry fees returned - that part is easy), but because of the way the programming works, we will not be able to take your horse back in age. So, when a player commits to skip a year or part of a year or even more than a year, that commitment is not reversible even if the tournament is canceled. It is a technical reason, but when you look at it, it shouldn't matter anyway. If you're skipping a year or so and doing it to find the right level of performance for your horse - it shouldn't matter if it's a current tournament that gets canceled or another tournament at the same age as long as the other conditions are similar.

Again, if you skip your horse's 3-year-old year to enter a 4-year-old tournament and that tournament is canceled, he is still a 4-year-old, but your entry points are refunded and his next tournament will still count as his first tournament in his 4-year-old year. So, we're not taking anything additional away that the player wasn't already intentionally doing.

Thanks for the info mommalee841.

In my comments on this thread I wrote that I did not intend or want to skip my horse's 2-year-old season. I also wrote that there was no pop-up alert that this would happen. THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED & it should not be difficult to program that in.

You wrote..."So, we're not taking anything additional away that the player wasn't already intentionally doing." In my case you are taking away my horse's three 2-year-old tournaments & I most definitely did NOT INTEND to skip her 2-year-old season & lose those tournaments.
You are focused on "intentional" & I am talking about "unintentional."

If your programming is that difficult to access then it was programmed poorly! I am accomplished in Visual Basic programming & would be happy to give you guys a hand if that is the appropriate programming language.

Jim

a bit like mine--on some orders--i keep getting in on the tournaments,too late...also--get this...and this is no B.S.--and i'm not lieing--have no reason to--and i haven't misinterpreted--any5thing!! my lil' pony--called THE RUFFEST WAR--only one i have...MAN O' WAR-RUFFIAN--how's that for a mix? Anyway~,he never was never listed at--Two!! I kid you not--and i've never been in a tournament--i have raced him-among the greats on my own--no jockeying any of themm...he's beaten many of them--a viciously, torrid-paced runner at 5,6 and 7 furlongs...however; he's never been--a TWO-YEAR OLD!~ What the heck??? i mean--ever! Was never listed as one--???
Also--other points of interest--can't wait for the euros to come out~i thought those were coming out end of MAY??~or 'THE SEC'!..LOL--although, i suppose alot of you feel that way--to see that monster go up against the likes of-MAN O' WAR..i'll tell ya--they'd both have known they were in a race-and-a-half!!..lol...
Here's one for you--that i re-upped on membership on here--using my visa debit card...and--have done it before--but this time--received NO(!!) credit for it.Writing cust service is like pulling teeth--
Now for all of you fine fellow "horsey-fans" ;-)
--a question--i'd like to hear all of your fine--expertises..can only pick one--do i go with the 70's ponies? 90's--one group--excellent dirt runners..other--turf. I have pre-50's...50's and 60's...and 80's stars.
Been a great triple crown-despite-well,interesting,anyway--wait til those other two monsters come back.. !! Think about it--QUALITY ROAD-who's training very well--and MIDSHIPMAN--the same...MID due back--possibly Saratoga meet...QUALITY--maybe the Dwyer,they're saying.Got that from very good sources-at the 'FORM';)~~
Well,now--to all you good people who read all of this--you oughtta have a medal for this..sorry to have kept this going so long;had alot to say-or ask.. lol...or-if not the medal--100,000 points,hey?? I'll be awaiting to hear your inputs on what i asked..~~ anything among you great people is appreciated. Thank you for your help.
Later~Bill.

No question in my opinion...70's horse file without a doubt

I would say go with the 70's files too. :) Let us know what you end up getting.

-Kayla

well i got the 70's..;-) u wanna know some results? btw--i have a tournament going on--you wouldn't believe the results--then again--lol...maybe you would!!~;) i take top horses --about 13,14,or15--in each heat--top 4 or 5 go on--to that group or decades finals.. i do 6 furlongs--mile--1 1/4, 1/1/2,and two!! --will do lil' more,too~~ pre-50's are done=--i just watch--i don't jockey. ya'll wanna know the results?? do you dare?? kind of interesting~..lol
Bill.~~

Well? Or are you just teaseing us. =)

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I have a colt named simply awesome.,
FIRST he was sent to the vet
SECOND he entered a tournament and competed in
two races where he finished 5th .4th after the second race
I figured he wasn't going to make it to the final. so I dicided
to pull him out and started looking for another tournament
for him, but his name never showed up when I tried to sign
him in. the reason is that he aged to a 3year old.
why so? only one tournament and the vet visit.

on your stable page there is a new tool . It tracks your horses and why they age . Please use it

You picked the right file for sure and your welcome...now for the results? lol

Love the new tools in the stable Puddles :) Already used the horse color/sex change ( hmmmm sex change...that sounds bad...lol ) and now checking out my history...just waiting for the removal tool...You and your team do great work!!!! Thanks again

ModGraphix

TY MOD/...FUTURE....CUSSER..I 1ST STARTED OUT RIGHT AWAY--1 MILE--JUST TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN...WAS A JOKE--SLEW RIPPED 'EM!!~4 LENGTHS-OVER AFFIRMED AND FOREGO!!~ 1:33.36~~
NOW..LAST COUPLE NIGHTS--LIL BIT IN THE DAYS...BUT HAVE HAD LOT TO DO AT WORK--thats why i havent been on so much--sorry gang... okay to begin with--im now convinced-well--i'm much trhinking of disqualifying--MAN O' WAR--WHY?? HE WAS NO HORSE!!~ HE WAS A FRK'N MACHINE--I'M SURE OF THAT NOW!!~..LOL..WHEN i tell u these results-youre not gonna believe them...I honestly believe at a few distances--he will handle SECRETARIAT--withn ease--why?? okay...some results.. the following:
PRE-50'S...1st heat...6 furlongs..EQUIPOISE WINS--over MAN O' WAR..who's flying--came from far back--just to miss..3/4 length. 1:08.15!!~ COALTOWN--3RD--I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE EASIEST-IF THATS AT ALL POSSIBLE-HEAT~~. Now keep in mind if you will that theyre all placed at random--i have them all at their peaks..the winners have all come from outside--inside--being blocked--and/or from the center of the track. Yes, MAN O' WAR was blocked i a few races==now...2nd heat...ROSEBEN...OVER OVER CITATION..1 1/2 LENGTHS..SIR BARTON 3RD. 1:08.20. 3RD HEAT--COUNT FLEET A NOSE OVER WAR ADMIRAL..PHAR LAP-WHO WAS BADLY BLOCKED..3RD. 1:08.31 .
HERE'S THE KICKER(BY THE WAY--I have them all running on fast tracks.)--the final!!~ almost exact reapeat of THE 1ST HEAT!!~ MANO'WAR JUST COMING FROM WAY BACK--JUST MISSING EQUIPOISE FOR THE WIN,BY 1/2,THIS TIME!!~...COALTOWN--3RD!! 1:08. 1:08.46 ./ BTW--FOR THE RECORD--COALTOWN WAS 1/2 IN FRONT OF WAR ADMIRAL-NECK in front of COUNT FLEET-NECK in front of CITATION-who was a nose in front of SEABISCUIT.
FOR THE MILE--LOL--MORE UNBELIEVABLE!!~ 1ST HEAT--MAN O' WAR--7 LENGTHS AHEAD OF EQUIPOISE!!~ 3RD--a nose back--GALLANT FOX.(WHO WAS FLYING.) 1:32.93 !!!!~
2ND HEAT--IN 1:33.12--WINS!!--by a neck--over BELDAME who was flying--getting a length and a half on THE 'BISCUIT,who took out COLIN by a nose--for 3rd money~~;)..lol--
3rd heat---COUNT FLEET-BY 1 1/2 OVER WAR ADMIRAL AND BLACK GOLD. TIME--1:33.15 .

THE FINAL FOR THE MILE--LOL--MAN O' WAR-gets blocked til the 1/16th pole-has to go 3 more wide..and WINS-by 2 lengths!!~!! TIME- 1:32.95 !!~ NO KIDDING!!~ 2ND..COUNT FLEET by one length over CITATION--WHO HAD 2 ON COLIN WHO HAD A NOSE ON SEABISCUIT,THIS TIME!!
OH THERE'S MORE--LOL--now you're thinking "ohh-why-ohh-why" did i have to ask..lol..
got the 1 1/4 and 1 1/2--those u will not believe!!~
Bill.~~~plus other results from 70's and 50's and 60's--80's!!~ yesd-you will be surprised!~ at least at a couple of them.

i get back tonight--i'll post those results for you..on the 70's ponies--AND THE FINALS BETWEEN--ALL OF THEM THAT I HAVE!~ (I DON'T HAVE THE 90'S HORSES-AND DIDN'T INCLUDE THE 2000'S---YET!~..LOL)--but you WILL be very surprised at the outcomes--theres still more racing--such as the sprints from these greats--and--the mile-and the longer routes. ty for your patience.;)
Bill.~~

Thanks for the updates, makes for interesting reading. =)

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hi sczen8, those were nice posts but i hope you won't mind if I ask you to create another thread for those...this thread is for horse age restrictions. many thanks.

discussing the original post by DUSTYLA2--but as i was writing it..i noticed that it had been answered the way i would have--and that he had the same prob as me--then..as you have read--i asked for lil' bit of help on two other topics--one involving which horse file to get--the 70's horses..came up--and it went on from there--granted this topic was a completely different thread. gee--'sorry about that gang~~. However; Really-no--really!!~ I seriously was going to put it on another thread--i had pondered about that,earlier--even while i was writing the last post i put on here,BATA~~but,you are right about this-So for those who are interested--i'll be posting a separate thread about what transpired during my lil' tournament..lol...THANK YOU.
BTW--I RECEIVED WORD BACK FROM SUPPORT-twice-that the EURO files--AND(!!)--SECRETARIAT--AND RIVA~~are definitely in the works,as of now!!Development stage.~ Also,that they should be ready possibly anywhere between--2 weeks and a month from now.;-):) sooo--just thought i'd lay that on you people. Interesting,huh??
Bill.~~