The prices of horse files, considering the limited number of horses you get, is, frankly, a bit much. I have enjoyed horse racing fantasy so much over the years. Seems like things have changed a bit now. The gameplay needs much tweaking and the community needs to improve vastly re navigation.
In earlier versions, Gary would charge a decent sum for his files. But he would always deliver with quality products and personal customer service. Seems like now, there is rush to make money, as opposed to building a clientele re trust and quality.
I sincerely hope things change quickly - gameplay-wise and business-wise - because I don't believe the game, as presently constituted, has too much shelf life.
Like restaurants, you are only as good as your last meal. The meal has clearly changed here.
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IC, Why don't you be more specific, let them know exactly what needs to be changed and what they can improve on...
Things have changed for the better .Please Let me help you with that: 1) Major graphic engine over haul with 9 camera veiws (including slow motion and instant replay.
2) Top notch real horse racing content with some content coming from top horse racing Jockey's and trainers
3) VIP members get major stake races in advance with all the current racing form on the contenders. This makes simulating the races very realisistic for betting or just playing the horse game
4) We are giving away many great prizes to our horse racing tournament winners every week . Prize values going up weekly
5) Very interactive community for all levels of racing fans (novice to pro)
6) The ability to compete with other horse players in jockey and betting tournaments for real prizes
7) The basic game is free and users will never have to pay 1 dime for many hours of horse racing fun. This also includes many current races that were just run (ex) This week we are sending out last weeks Americian Oaks -all contenders and in true racing form
8) Full stats on all players and all race horses for complete comparision in our community (please check out the details of the horse player stats you can get . You can even compare your ability against others on any race horse or race track in our virtual racing game
9) Over 10 staff writters for fresh unique horse race game and horse racing general content .
10) Blogs,video's,pictures and much more user content uploaded to our horse racing community
11) Play in privite mode(Up to six people) or community mode against others (up to thousands)
12) Over 30 major stake races will be given FREE to our VIP members to play and handicap with
13) Earn community points to get free horse and race files from our store
14) over 10,000 new lines of code that updated the horse race game to work with 90% of all new MS operating systems
15) The ability to share your best horse races with the community or save for your own privite veiwing
16) Player generated horse racing tournaments against others (3 -4 weeks away)
17) Over 7 new past performance features added to the PP's on each race horse
18) We will have over 50 files with over 5000 real champion race horses from all over the world for our race game players to pick from
19)Most customer service requests are responded to in less then 2 hours (Just like we did here)
Whats still coming ? ......TONS MORE
The game is in BETA . Things will take time to get to where we want them to go (THE GENERAL RESPONSE FOR OUR HORSE RACING GAME HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE). The navigation issue is being handled as I Type. There will be no navigation issue after the 15th of next month . Many new features are on there way . (I can not disclose but they are great)
There have been a few players from the old version of horse race fantasy that are over whelmed when they first try the game . This is a new game with a new focus . The days of a simple DOS self play horse game are over for us)
With that said we hope you stick around and grow with us but maybe we are not for you .
Mike
I have played the old version also . This is 10x better no 100x.I have played all the sim horse games out there and this blows them all away . I love the community aspect it makes the game so much more fun. I love the new video's they do everyweek and the fact they got top jockey's and trainers involved.
I do not know where the rush to make money is ? The racing game is free!
Each week they add more cool stuff and I like that . I love the free horse races they send out so I can see if I can change what happened in real life .I love being the jockey I have asked them 1-2 questions in the past and they always responded fast ,and I have not bought 1 thing yet. I almost feel I owe them !!!!!!
I was one of the first members. Each week the game get's better . I love it . I have bought a few files but for 20.00 bucks I have gotten so many hours of fun. I can not share my races because of my fire wall here at work blocks that ability .
The navigation of the horse racing could be better but I am now so use to it I would not know where to start (ha ha )
It looks like you have run over 200 races so there must be something you like? It wis all coming together fast . Stick around the fun is just getting started . Play in community mode and earn more points to get free race files .
I'M A NEW PLAYER THAT JUST STARTED YESTERDAY, HAVING LOTS OF FUN. I'M AM HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING INTO BEING THE RIDER, I'M NOT DOING SO GOOD, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN TELL ME TO HELP ME IMPROVE. GOOD LUCK
indiancharlie-sorry you feel that way. But I do recommend being patient. The game is going in a new direction and the team is working hard to get new content to the users . I see you are not a VIP member, and that is OK, so it is not costing anything to play right now. If you want to buy race files that is fine but you also have the option to not buy and EARN files by playing. the more you play the less the files cost. I have paid zero $$$$ for my last two horse files. I recommend you try and earn as many as you can. I have been playing version of this game since '99. And times I struggled with the amount of money Gary charged in the day....but the new model will be completely different and has no comparison. While some of the horse files are smaller in quantity the same quality is there....and Gary is still involved.
So all I can say is you are entitled to your opinion but give the team time to develop and execute their vision....I think you will missing out on some terrific stuff if you dont.
I should add....I am a forum moderator here but I am not on the payroll. I am doing this to help a small team grow and execute on a vision. There are times when I have been critical but the bad here is way outweighed by the good, and the is a lot of good and some major @ss good comming down the road too.
BILLYHILL- Hi and welcome. I highly recommend reading the "game and community info" link to the right of the webpage..it gives tips. I cant find the thread but read the past posts on the forums and you will find a lot of jockey tips.
In a nutshell my keys to being a better jockey are:
Use energy wisely (ration energy to amount of distance left in race)
place your horse in a position that matches running stile if posibble
Dont run at top speed more then 2 furlong at end of race.
Handicap other horse and judge what the pace of race will be
hope this helps
indiancharlie,
I already have 4 horse files and am waiting for the 70's horse file to buy my 5th. The thing is that I haven't paid a cent for this game. There are ways to have fun here without paying. That is what makes this game so good. Of course, you have to master the game to be able to win tournaments, but I've only been playing this game for a few months and I won both of the tournaments I entered. Don't get discouraged and keep of trying. Enter tournaments and eventually you will be able to get the files you want without paying a dime. I know puddles wouldn't like me to say it but it is true. You can't complain about the price for the game when the game is as good as this one and can be played for free.
Can you get free horse files without being a VIP member? How do you enter Tournaments? How do you get so many race and horse files without paying? How many races do you have to win with what odds to get enuf points to get horse and race files? Can you buy Vip package w/ pionts?
A lot of questions. Please od me a favor and read the "Game and Community Info" link on the left side of the web page. It will answer a lot of questions.
but lets try a quick and dirty
1. Yes you can get files without being a VIP....it may take longer. VIPS can earn 5000 points per day and non VIP's only 1000 points....but a pointis a point.
2. Earning points is a consistant way to get horse files...but the best way is win tournaments for quick points...first place payouts have been in the range of 200,000 points.
3. To enter a tourney schedule calandar on the right hand side , go to the day you want to enter a tourney and it will list all tourneys. When you find one click the register button and your in.
4. Every horse you bet or jockey has can earn points, no matter what odds....I think 4th place in a race is what you need to finish. Amount of points is determined by there odds. Please read the game and community info link to find out more. Max points you can earn a race is 500.
5. Can you buy VIP membership with points? While I am not sure, I highly doubt it.
hope this helps
i think the vip memberships are to expensive$$$$$$$$$$$$$
and the horse files $$$$$$$$$$$
it would be nice if they made the the horse files $5.00
vip membership $7.00
Yes, there are a lot of questions. First and foremost, you cannot buy a VIP Membership through our virtual horse game with points. VIP Memberships have a lot of advantages over regular memberships. Currently, all of our horse racing tournaments do not require entry fees. This is about to end. All our horse game tournaments will require entry fees and entry fees are paid with community points. VIP Members of our virtual game earn community points 5 times faster than non-VIP members. VIP members also have the ability to play in special horse racing tournaments, both betting and jockeying, not open to the general public. There are a lot of other reasons to be a VIP horse racing game player. For example, VIPs receive, in advance, all major stake races so they can simulate or run those horse races many times over prior to the actual horse racing event. VIPs get extra community race horses each month and there are many more perks for VIPs coming.
As far as the best way to start out, if you are a newbie to our free horse game, please see on the left navigation the Game & Community Info tab. From there, there are 3 sections I highly recommend reading first. Horse Racing Fantasy General Game Overview (this is very important and gives you the 1,000-foot approach to understanding our racing games). Then if you're interested in playing in our horse racing tournaments, read the Tournament Entry Guide. I also suggest the tab entitled Points, Badges & Awards - very important to our horse game players who are serious about horse racing tournaments, earning community points and using those points to their advantage. Also, to help you handicap the races better, whether as a jockey or a bettor in our virtual horse racing game, check out the Handicapper's Guide to Horse Racing Fantasy. Our free horse game is very different than other horse games or horse racing games. Reading these sections will get you up to speed.
Finally, earning points and becoming established in our horse racing community requires you to play in community mode. Playing in community mode is done from inside the game under the Race Setup page. On the top left of that page, you will notice a blue button entitled "Switch Players". Clicking on that button will move your horse game playing status from Private mode to Community mode and vice-versa.
Good luck, and enjoy our free virtual horse racing game!
Thanks for your comment and suggestion on pricing. It costs up close to $30,000 per month to run our operation. We don't expect to make any money for another year. There's so much content being developed, so much programming being done, the prices have to stay where they are. In fact, current VIP Members to our horse racing game will be grandfathered in current prices. But, soon, we will be raising VIP membership prices for new VIPs. It can take up to 20 minutes to build one horse in a file. We are already giving away thousands of dollars a month in bonus community points. There are contracts with jockeys and trainers, licensing fees, technology development, prebuilt horses every month, quality stake horse races given in advance to simulate and/or play in our horse game. To be honest with you, Steven, we feel that we are giving a ton to our players for very little money. Bottled water is at least $3 today, a movie ticket is $10, McDonald's is $6 or more. We're doing the best we can and the pricing right now is fair. We appreciate your feedback and your loyalty. At the end of the day, and I say this with true sincerity, at some point we're going to have to make some money. Please continue to enjoy yourself in our racing game and thanks for being a member to our horse racing community.
The VIP membership is a steal for $9.95 a month. The Pre-built races are fantastic and helped me win money on the real races. Anybody complaining about the price needs to get their head examined. There isn't too much you can get in the world for 10 dollars a month that give you this much entertainment. I can't wait to see the finished product and all the new features.
i have to agree with nep the pricing is very fair, new horses every month plus alone the pre-built races each week are great and make the races more enjoyable to watch on tv. alot of benefits being a vip
In addition to agreeing with all of the sentiments stated above, let me add this. Like many others in this community, I've been playing this game for many years and purchased it originally for the "classic" horses. With this newer version, I was at first very skeptical about the whole idea of community horses. At first, I thought "why on earth would I want to play with made up horses?" but I have proven myself wrong. As it turns out, I've not purchased anywhere NEAR the number of "classic" horse files as I would have expected, because I'm having plenty of fun just playing with the community horses.
Having said that, I definitely would NOT want the team to stop making the classic horses . . . but the fun is clearly there for anyone wanting to play the game but who does not wish to invest in the classic files, for whatever reason. As for me, I will continue to purchase (with money or points) more classic files eventually, but right now I'm having plenty of fun with the community horses.
Ken, I couldn't have said it better. I share your thoughts and the sentiments of others. It is difficult for me to imagine anyone complaining about this game. In my opinion, the costs is well within reason.
I think for the hours and fun we have on this game, it couldnt be any cheaper...Ive played many online game that cost way over $59.00 just to buy the game, and then $15.00 a month to play monthly...This is by far the best horse racing game out there. Ive played other ones I wont mention, and they dont even compare....Id say 200 times better than even the game Gallop Racer, which I played forever...once you can train and breed and doo all that, there wont be a game that would hold a candle to this game...Id be glad to pay even more monthly just to support this....the guy who started this post, must not know anything about a buisness and the need to make money to create things...to produce this game cost thousands upon thousands, id say if you can do better, create your own game that you think would be better..or play and have fun :) ruffiano....
Not only is worth the price but I really think its a steal to be able to play this quality of a game fo a lousy 10 bucks a month. I know I am here to stay, I have been a member for a while now and the game has improved leaps and bounds. Way to go Mike and thank you for bringing us the best Horse Race Game ever. Gus
I think this horse racing game is one of the best. It is heading in the right diretion, I have played all kinds of horse racing games and this is FAR the best there is..
Great job..keep up the good work..