Glancing through the forums, I continue to notice all types of mis-directional information, whether intentional or not, being published. So, I thought that once again I would clarify our true direction.
First, the Puzzle Program. The Puzzle Program was implemented as an incentive for trainers to enter tournaments, which in turn, would benefit trainers who are serious about the game. The only thing wrong with the Puzzle Program was how people were able to access it. In the beginning, when we gave a puzzle play for each Yellow Tournament, we realized that Yellow Tournaments would affect our other tournaments. Now that we have adjusted how the Puzzle Program is accessed, that problem has been resolved. You can obviously still access the Puzzle Program by playing Yellow Tournaments, and we expect some players to do that. Remember, Yellow Tournaments fill a void. More importantly, now that we know the Puzzle Program can pay out big, players will want multiple shots at the Puzzle Program. In order to do that, they have to enter General Tournaments, or at least Greens, Blues or Reds. We are slowly seeing entries in those tournaments pick up.
The Puzzle Program is a gift – a bonus that came at no cost to the players. It was never calculated in our financials. It’s just another way the company is motivating players to build stables. This wasn’t an obligation we had. It’s something we did to reward active trainers. Now that the new horses (horses born after December 27, 2012) are finally starting to be active in tournaments, I’m sure puzzle wins will pick up again. That will motivate other players to maximize puzzle opportunities. They will do that by entering general tournaments for multiple puzzle plays or Red, Green and Blue Restricted Tournaments. The cycle just has to play out, and it will over the next 30 days.
In order to even further motivate players to build their stables and actively enter tournaments, we’re rolling out a new program in February that rewards players with big opportunities for payouts as big as the Puzzle Program by making fictitious wagers on champion horses (the greatest horses that ever lived). Player will earn those opportunities to play through a combination of active horses and active horses in tournaments.
When you look at the Puzzle Program, which has already paid out thousands of dollars in money and hundreds of dollars in game points, understand that this is coming from the company’s marketing budget. All of these posts telling us what we need to do and where we should redirect our marketing dollars aren’t taking into consideration that these are new-found bonuses by the company that we have absolutely no commitment or obligation to provide except build competition among players. Utilizing these bonuses and putting them toward payouts doesn’t bring new players onboard in the same manner.
So, how do the older players benefit? First, they can just as easily win the Puzzle Program, or win the fictitious betting program, which they should, in theory, have more opportunities at both because they’re established with good horses. But, where they really benefit is when the new player base continues to build and the core entries build, then we can allocate even more bonuses based on tournaments won like we do now, potentially even creating new categories of rewards solely tied into training skills. Marketing is a funnel, and as the funnel fills, we become stronger at the bottom building up our core base.
All of these preposterous comments and ludicrous remarks about the company going in the wrong direction are just not true. The difference is we’re thinking a different way and are approaching it in a different way. We’re putting our money into that approach without taking anything away from the existing reward programs. I could see it, if I reduced certain reward programs to introduce these new ones, but the fact that these are added with the intention of the long-term building of the game player base makes me a big supporter of all of our current players in ensuring the growth of our game and community. I’ve been reading in the forums that tournaments are just not filling. There are a lot of canceled tournaments. That’s because we publish so many tournaments now, that at any given time, there are over 1,200 active tournaments. The turn on those tournaments can be as much as 3,000 a week. In other words, we’re publishing three times more tournaments today than we did a year ago and 50 times more tournaments than when we started out six years ago. One of the issues is the frequency of the same tournament running, so if it doesn’t fill on Monday, it’s available again Wednesday or Thursday. This is specifically associated with the Green, Blue and Red Restricted Tournaments. The new search program we just implemented should help fill these more effectively because the results we’re bringing back when players search for tournaments from their stable page are very specific to their horses. They can find the right tournaments in minutes, no longer scrolling through pages and pages of listed tournaments.
We run, on average, not including Yellow Restricted Tournaments, 155+ tournament races per day. That is over 1,000 per week. Last year at this time, we were running about 30% less and the amount of published tournaments was only 30%, as well - so, the illusion is that a lot more tournaments are being canceled now than last year. Though in numbers that is correct, last year at this time we were only publishing one-third the amount of tournaments we’re publishing now. That is a combination of convenience, tournaments being available days later instead of weeks (like last year) and a significant increase in the types of tournaments available through the Blues and Greens.
But, we’re still looking at more ways to motivate the filling of tournaments. We’ll do that by adding new players. Starting in February, we’re initiating some very aggressive player acquisition programs. They will be launched once the website speed gets updated one more time. We have an exact clone of our website being worked on by a group of very talented developers who have increased the website speed ten-fold. (Remember, this is the test website.) So, pages loading in 4, 5, 6 seconds are literally loading in half-a-second. We are hoping to move this over to our live site in 3 to 4 weeks. Once that’s done, we will initiate a very significant marketing push. With all the new bonus programs available and the new guy having a shot to win something quickly, pushing him down the funnel and growing the base, is what we expect to happen. (Lots more players and many more tournaments running.)
We’re working on the new desktop client, a video of which I plan to show by February 15. The desktop client is a game changer for us. The technology is cutting-edge and, along with this new technology, comes enhanced jockey AI along with several new training features to allow trainers to train their horses more quickly. This is a very big update, but for all the players utilizing the desktop client, it brings the game to an entirely new level. Because it was designed from scratch, it ties into the community and the web game like a glove. The current desktop client came way before the community did, so the coordination between the two isn’t perfect. That causes confusion to new players trying to understand how the desktop client and the web interface are supposed to interact with each other. So, once again we are thinking of our established players by giving them something they want, and at the same time we’re giving new players something that helps them adapt to our game in a more organized and simplified manner.
As I mentioned last month, we have closed a partnership with a very large company who has taken a major stake in Horse Racing Simulation. I’m just waiting for permission to officially announce it. Their partnership not only allows us to expand the game with more features and to expand our marketing programs even further, it will also allow us to introduce new bonus programs that actually tie into major horse racing events. In other words, the game will go to a whole new level. Part of this new vision includes our championship races actually running on national TV where players with the best horses can watch those horses compete on the big screen right in their living room as part of a broadcast presentation in a weekly featured event.
To sum up our development team’s current focus, the list includes:
• A much faster website
• A new desktop client with enhanced features and improved jockey intelligence
• New general features, like the ability to challenge players to match races with your horses
• Fictitious wagering program, wagering on the greatest horses that ever lived for big bonus payouts
• Simplified shopping cart and ability to breed multiple horses to the same sire and/or dam without checking out
• VIP Lounge – Yes, the VIP Lounge is finally in development. It will include a free monthly breeding for VIP members, VIP passes to over a dozen racetracks around the United States and other cool contests
This, along with other features and improvements, are being developed. So, for someone to say we don’t care about our players, or we’re not staying ahead of the competition just doesn’t make sense when you look at the big picture. The company has come a long way since 2007. For those players who have actually been around for more than 3 or 4 years, the added features and bonuses have overall been well-received and have allowed us to ensure company growth between 30% and 40% year-over-year since company inception.
One final thought, and I’ve said it many times. Our company has not profited since day one. The reason for that is that every dime that has been generated in revenues, along with additional monies, has gone into the constant building out of our dream. We could have easily stopped development a year or two ago, put the game on cruise control and made a decent living every month. Instead, we have elected to continue to invest for the bigger picture. Our picture may be different than what some players envision – or, maybe it’s not so different, it’s just that our direction is misunderstood or misinterpreted and our vision is the same as that of a lot of players. How we get there is just a different business approach. I am not here to please everyone. Our government can’t do it, so why should I be expected to do it? What I am here to do is communicate our vision and keep providing new and exciting opportunities to enjoy our game. We are a form of entertainment and we’re just trying to make that entertainment bigger and better.
Thank you for your comprehensive and informative facts about the future of this great game.Time will tell if all or some of the additions will be successful.I will be watching with interest over the coming months.Hopefully HRF will eventually successfully realise their fantasy and the community will play in harmony.Best wishes to HRF and fellow trainers.
well i have read all with great interest and all sounds great looking forward to the new features.
only 1 question i have is this you say
( VIP Lounge – Yes, the VIP Lounge is finally in development. It will include a free monthly breeding for VIP members,
VIP passes to over a dozen racetracks around the United States and other cool contests ) this part mostly
i am in U.K so how would this part work VIP passes around the U.S
would this mean that all who do not reside in the U.S would not be eligable to enter this part of things
luck all rose
I remember Back When Tournament Payouts Were Jumbo. Today there are just a few peanuts. I know now days they claim to give out rewards but yet to see one.
Perhaps I should become a Company man. Na screw this rigged game. I am not going to sell out like the Kingsport types just to win a lousy fantasy horse race. That would be just too dumb to be a fantasy horse race kiss ass stooge. I would rather reduce my horses and VIP and sit on the sidelines throwing rotten eggs.
One of the major problems is the tournaments not filling and other tournaments with the same restrictions starting up two of three days later. If you kept a tournament open without a start date and as soon as the tournament filled with say 20 horses, then open a new tournament with the same restrictions. Give us the option to scratch our horse with no penalties if we choose to enter a different tournament. This way we know that the tournament will run in time. The lower tournaments BSR horses just don’t fill and in turn the vet is probably doing great business. I used to love horses with low BSR’s because you could earn the same points on a win as with a 129 horse. Right now its hard to race in a 116 tournament. It does not pay to keep them anymore. I think you doing a great job with the game. You just have to fine tune a couple of areas.
A lot of the new ideas seem very good and should help the game. One aspect that only the new players can help is actually putting some time into the game. Training horses on different surfaces to see what their horses really like. Right now, I see a lot of filled tournaments on fast dirt, while many tournaments on other surfaces don't even get one entry. Even tournaments on sand are getting zero entries. No one can help these problems except the trainers themselves.
good idea wolfie, noticed 3 different tourneys,same conditions,same date, same time, lot of twos doing same seems I can race two yr olds all day long, when they turn 3 its hard to find a race open, when I do its 6 or 9 f.
I retire 99% of my 2 year olds if they do not win or run well without luck in their first tournament final(blues/greens).I also retire horses that are likely to sit in the stable because they are in cancelled tournaments.Do not like paying stable fees for non winners or non starters.Blues runners-99bsr/90bsr rarely fill these days.I find that tournaments have full fields or less than 8 entries.Adding different surfaces and yellow tournaments have had a negative affect on races being filled.Too many races/not enough horses?
When you dangle 4-figure gift cards out there and encourage people to chase after them, some are bound to start playing for the wrong reasons, spending way more than they should, and setting themselves up for major meltdowns.
Why not get rid of cards over $500, if not $100, and increase the number of smaller-value prizes, especially ones related to tournaments, which are the heart of this game, if I understand HRF's mission correctly?
This must be a casino now because skill doesnt get you paid like guess a does.
TOP PAYOUTS
THE GAME OF LUCK
#1 Puzzle FN $10,000
#2 Puzzle PN $2,500
#3 Top BSR 6 months $2500
#4 2nd Place BSR 6 months $1000
#5 Puzzle PN $1000
#6 Puzzle NN $500
#7 Puzzle PN $500
#8 3rd Place BSR 6 months $500
THE GAME OF SKILL
#1 Most generals in 1 month $1000
#2 Most blues in 1 month $250
On the way to the track you stop off and buy a racing form and a scratcher. You spend a few hours handicapping the races and make your bets. After all the effort studying the form, you lose all your bets. You pull out the scratcher and a few seconds later, you won all your money back plus more.
very nice update, i want to ask Puddles, why aren't you addressing the lack of G3-G1 tours and the consistency issues...can you give us an update as far as those are concern PLEASE.
Hi Mike, thanks for the info about the puzzles and company direction. Firstly, let me tell you the puzzle program has nil effect on me as far as stimulation to enter tournies, I joined this game to race, in proper tourny races not like the yellow rubbish. I have tried it and think it's removed from the spirit of the game. It is ok for short timers that need the thrill of racing straight away, but for us who are serious trainers !!!!!!! If you are looking for reasons for people to breed and race, put the puzzle money into the races. It scares me the amount of money going into the puzzle program, reminds me of some race clubs in Australia, putting bands and jumping castles and the like onto racecourses. I understand the reasons for their actions, keep the kids entertained while mum and dad have a bet, attract the younger people to the races and so on, but this is a computer game, we are here to win races, not do lucky chance puzzles that are meant for gaming lounges, we don't need that type of marketing influence. I hope you get what I mean. Maybe I am wrong, others might think they are a great idea, but believe me, they are having the opposite effect on me. You should make the race prizes the focus and fix the massive inconsistantcies, which are very frustrating, and our game will prosper.
Regards Greg (GCLIFFO)
nice post Gcliffo, lets keep the flaming out of this one and have a good discussion and hope Puddles answers our questions and concerns.
I am hearing you 21burns, same here my friend, there are a lot of bad horses being bred and I use the same theory as you and try another, I am constantly culling and breeding to get the right horses in my barn, would like one of those monsters, lol.
Regards Greg (GCLIFFO)
The first thing your "new partner" should do is fire you. They should read thru the forums and notice how many times you have told people tnd realize that your customer service is the worst that has ever been seen at any level. You can get better customer service at the town dump. You NEVER apologize for your actions or care to figure out if there is a problem within the community and what you can do to fix a situation. Instead you tell people to fuck off. I've said it before and I will say it again, you need to learn customer service 101. It is imperative for any business owner or you will lose all of your customers.
I saw you mention the word "gift" several times in your speech. Make sure everyone knows that you want to tax them for their "gifts".
GCLIFFO,your comments are fully supported by me.You are on the money.I am all for changes that make this great game better.HRF have a master plan and will not be deviated.Hopefully when all the changes have been fully implemented we will see what HRFs vision was and the game will settle down with all trainers racing and participating in harmony.HRF are fishing for new players and have added tempting prizes for puzzles to attract them.How many of the new players will stay and play?Only time will tell.My fear is that this game will become more fantasy than real.I will stay and play the basic form of the game.
How about you delute the tournys in blues in greens might help them fill we dont need them every day or every other day might help.Why not add more surfaces to the lower BSR horses especially Synthetic i trained horses on it they ran great only to find theres no tournys.Not sure why this is dont make any sense to me there should be tournys for all surfaces you can train on or whats the point of having them justa thought.
I have been a member of the HRF community for 3+ years. I've seen the changes- mostly for the good some not so good.
Some observations:
REAL RACE HORSES:
Bred for certain types of distances ( sprint, Midlle, Classic and Marathon among many more) Some outrun their breeding. Others don't. It is what it is-risk of breeding.
Among the distances horses have a racing surface preference. Fast, Sloppy, Good, Soft, Firm, etc....) That is a constant with real race horses. If a horse loves Fast Dirt, for instance, he won't perform well on any other dirt surface.
BREEDING HRF:
If you breed 2 horses that NEVER raced on artificial or synthetic surfaces nor turf in their entire careers, how do you get a colt/ filly that loves it?! And the horse isn't competitive on ANY other surface? How is that?
If you breed the same pair of horses why doesn't the colt/filly get the same attributes each time? Genes don't change.
If you breed 2 horses, train the colt/ filly, and find out that it likes synthetic, heavy dirt, soft turf etc.. surfaces. You look for tournaments with those surfaces and NONE are available!?
The Only available races are a Claiming race or a General Tournament which is not an option with good but low BSR horses.
Every real thoroughbred race track in the country has conditions that will fit any given horse at any given distance. And HRF doesn't?! That's realistic racing??
I give the real example of Lava Man-race horse. He was once a $40,000 claimer and ended up being a Champion multi Grade 1 winner. He NEVER won a race outside of his home track.
HRF SURFACES/CONDITIONS:
It used to be that the lower BSR horses could at least pay their Stable Fees if entered in the right race, conditions, etc...Now, Tournaments aren't filling. I had a Blue cancel today, again. Last 2 weeks I've had 5 cancelled tournies- GReens, Blues especially.
Sadly,now, the lower BSR horses aren't getting the same type of racing conditions as the upper BSR horses get. Nothing is perfect but the playing field should be leveled a bit.
I agree with rdjracing completely. Racing surfaces should be like they are in REAL thoroughbred racing.
ALL conditions for ALL horses. Perhaps put in community horses in ALL Tournament races that don't fill. I think this way the lower BSR horses will at least have a chance to earn their keep.
HRF PUZZLES:
What's the point? Sure the payoffs are big. But, what's the direct coorelation between knowing IN ORDER what your particular horse likes? They all like bedding, and toys, and carrots, etc... Never had a horse that didn't like those things. I had a horse that loved snickers candy bars. Is that next in the puzzles?
YELLOW TOURNAMENTS: Good in theory. I like that you can race a horse for its entire career in one day, if you want. They need to have more racing CONDITIONS here too.
What appealed to me about HRF is the fact that they were ( maybe still are- jury is out on that one- time will tell) THE BEST REALISTIC VIRTUAL HORSE RACING GAME on the 'net. Believe me, I've tried EVERY virtual horse racing game out there on the web. Now, they are adding puzzles..... Sounds like a casino to me.
In fairness, they have to bring in new players= more money= ongoing improvements of the game. And perhaps those new players will eventually attend live races and fall in love with the sport. I've been in love with throughbred horse racing for over 30 years.
HRF should stay with what they know. Keep the game REALISTIC to actual/real thoroughbred breeding, racing and training. That way Everybody wins!
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"And down the stretch they come!..."
I have been involved in horse racing for over 45 years as a breeder/owner/trainer and fully support the statements made by mosesismine.This is the best racing game online.There have been many rapid changes in a short space of time to attract new players.Many of the changes have improved the game.Some of the changes have been dubious.The puzzle program for me is a waste of training time and I will not be using it despite the lure of BIG MONEY.Lets get back to the basics of horse racing.If you cannot enter a horse in a race,why breed and build a stable?I have retired(unraced) at least 50 low bsr horses this year because tournaments were cancelled.This has been a waste of money.If I breed a horse I would to be confident that it has a chance to race and not sit idly in the stable eating apples,carrots,playing with toys etc.
This is all to late to help me, Ive given up here. I still cant access my stable every other day and Im just tired of horses who have won suddenly so worse with Lasix. Dont worry about pleasing me anymore, Im gone when the points dry up and that wont be long. I'll miss friends here but all I can do is wish them luck. Adios
Major misconception about breeding horses. A great mare will maybe produce 1 good horse in her lifetime. It’s the dams and grand dams that usually produce good horses. If you go by percentages the great sires will produce maybe 1 out of 100 great horses. So to catch a 140+ BSR is a little better on this site then real life.
The dam and sire do not pass on their genes, they pass on their Parents genes. So the genes do change in every breeding and you never know which genes gets passed on. Unless turf, distance, mud, etc. has been in every generation of their bloodline, they do not have to run on the same surface, condition or distance as their patents. Take a dog that has 7 pups. Each egg was attacked by a different sperm, all from the same sire. They pups are all different but the genes came from the same dogs. If genes were always right, Secretariat should have been a sprinter.
All the horses in the shed are great horses, if so when we breed we should get great horses. Not going ti happen.
Fact …. Breeding on HRF is a roll of the dice, pretty much like real racing. It’s a big gamble, the more you invest the better the chances are to get a great horse.
Breeding can be a roll of the dice however if you breed a distance sire with a distance mare you would expect a foal to be a distance runner in most cases.In this game you cannot predict this will happen.I bred over 100 times to the same sire and dam.Both were distance runners.All but 2 offspring were sprinters.
21, you have been around long enough to know, nothings real. Its a computer generated game and can not compensate for past records or all the horses would be great. It would be easy to breed a horse for surface, distance and track conditions.
AMEN!!!!!!!! We need more minds like yours in our industry and government!!!! Your a great CEO Mike.
LOL, classic. A campaign adviser or politician, maybe. Almost 24 weeks in between posts and no stable horses. Interesting.
to me the reason tourneys aren't filling is because everyones retiring there horses so they don't have to pay stable fees, here's an idea since everyone keeps their higher BSR horses so how about stable fees on horses with a BSR of 130 or higher paying and
lower horses would be free to stable more horses more full races higher tourney payout and maybe keep new players advancing in the game and maybe even staying,
And keep Trainers from retires so many horses
I would rather see that than rather see that than prizes
and again for USA the game does NOT CHARGE YOU TAXES ITS THE GOVERMENT YOU DUMB ASS
I GUESS YOU'VE NEVER WON BIG AT THE TRACK BECAUSE THEY TAX YOU, FOR UNCLE SAM
It's excellent to receive updates on what is being worked on, and seems like you have alot on your plate PUDDLES......in order to keep this game running smoothly and keeping the majority of the members happy as well. Look at it as a combo meal at Wendy's, Burger and Fries go well with each other, and so does fine tuning this game and keeping members happy AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR DOING... I'm new so, as of now I'm pleased with game but do have a concern that Realbadwolf brought up, and i totally agree with so far. PUDDLES thumbs up so far with this excellent game......but even with excellent games ........nothing a tune-up can't fix....
Amen GCLIFFO, i have bred about 50 - 75 horses in the last month and can't seem to breed anything with a BSR over 127. Where are the monsters ?
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